[Public-list] Anyone looking for a project A-30?

Tue Jan 4 09:51:40 PST 2005

I agree with Mike, the boats are worthy of restoration. That also point out
one of the real values of the Association and of the "member" and "public"
lists.
I purchased #441 in the winter of 2000 in Annapolis. She is my first boat, I
was, and to some extend still am, a babe in the woods. Without the willing
help from the people on this list, I am not at all sure that I could have
done everything that I have upgraded over the last 4 years. I am like Roger,
I like working on the boat almost as much as sailing.
I now receive compliments about the classic looks and grace of "SallyB"
almost every time I am at the Marina. I take a great deal of pride in the
fact that people tell me that the care shows.

My thanks to all and Happy New Year

Bill Ydel
SallyB #441

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Subject: Re: [Public-list] Anyone looking for a project A-30?

I think the phrase "needs work" is a relative phrase that depends on the
owner's skill level, time and money. The bottom line is that the Alberg 30
is a boat worthy of a considerable amount of restoration. They all started
out equal, but their present-day condition is a direct reflection of how
well the have been cared for over the past 30+ years and the modifications
that have been made. Just like with most things, there aren't many 'deals' 
to be had. An Alberg 30 that is priced real low will needs lots of work,
whereas one that one's in the higher price ranges don't need much or just
cosmetics. Accessories that come with the boat aren't worth much (unless it
is new). I even suspect a diesel engine that comes with a $5K boat - the
theory...if the boat hasn't been taken care of, what about the engine? That
is the single most expensive piece of hardware on the boat. Just my thoughts
on the subject.

Mike Lehman
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From: "C.B. Currier" <cbcurrier at spinrx.com>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] Anyone looking for a project A-30?

> Rachel,
>
> This topic has come accross the list in the past. Remember theses are 30
> plus year old boats. Some have been well maintained and others have not.
>
> I own 2 Alberg 30's
>
> One is in excellent condition & I paid a fair market price for her when I
> purchased her back in 97. The other I paid less than 4,000 for and it
> needs work. However my lesson in the 2 boats is this: I will probably put
> equal amount of labor into both boats due to their ages and maintenance
> requirement regardless of how much I put down to buy the boat.
>
> In your case picking up an alberg 30 for $5000 or less with a good working
> Yanmar is worth the fact that the boat has a yanmar in it.
> retail wise it would cost you $10,000 (round number) to put that engine in
> today. Here you could have an a30 which needs cosmetic work annually, but
> which can be cleaned up for less than the going rate of $12-15 thousand.
> If you want reasons to why not to buy vs why to buy look at the success of
> the A30 class here on the chesapeake. 40 years of hopeless infatuation
> with a boat that can steal you heart and keep it forever.
>
> There are obviously other reasons to not get the boat but the reality is
> that if the boat has a good engine, no or little blistering/osmosis, a
> mast  then it is probably worth the $5000 however if the interior needs
> work hire a marine carpenter or do yourself the time to redo the cabin
> sole, the bulkheads/wiring. then you have a boat that is comfortable.
>
> Good luck.
> An BTW: If you can get good sails oyu are looking at a saving of $2-$5
> thousand on those.
>
> -- 
> C.B. Currier
> Infinity #57
> Daybreak #458
>
> Rachel said:
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Onwu at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Interesting story...................I have a 1972  Alberg30 I'm
> >> selling for
> >> $5,000.00 that has no engine but has brand new mylar racing sails
> >> (sails valued
> >> at $4,000.00).........the boat is in City Island ,NY..........I don't
> >> believe
> >> I'm asking for too much for the boat...............
> >
> > Albergers,
> >
> > I hope my message didn't come across wrong - like I was expecting
> > perfection for $5000.  Maybe I should have given more details.  I guess
> > I thought I wouldn't write an extremely long e-mail unless someone was
> > really interested.  Plus, I didn't want to offend the owner, if he is
> > on the list.
> >
> > OTOH, many times - after driving a long distance to view a boat that
> > did not seem to be as described - I've wished that others who had
> > looked at it before me had posted their findings.  I just wish sellers
> > would be a bit more accurate when describing their boats.
> >
> > At any rate, the boat I looked might or might not be worth the $5000 -
> > and it is "obo."  A newish Yanmar is certainly a desirable feature.  I
> > guess it all depends on what one is looking for.  The interior, for
> > example, was said to need "updating," but to be in basically good
> > condition.  In actuality, it had water damage and - I believe - would
> > need to be completely gutted.  It was hard to get too good a look due
> > to the bees (there were nests), but I could see that the overhead had
> > been painted, and that it was raining paint flakes everywhere, the sole
> > was water damaged, and it was in major disarray.  Definitely more than
> > "updating" necessary in my book.
> >
> > I guess I was pretty surprised at the difference between the
> > description and the actual boat.  Had I understood the condition of the
> > boat, I would have known that I wasn't interested and saved myself 5
> > hours of driving and had a Sunday with my brother whom I was on my way
> > to visit.  But it could possibly be just the right boat for someone.
> >
> > As I said before, I'd be happy to talk to anyone who is really
> > interested.  I might rather talk by phone than spend 45 minutes typing
> > up a comprehensive letter...
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > --- Rachel
> >
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