[Public-list] careening ship

[Roger L Kingsland]

Good point Gord.  I think I just wanted to play with the 10 ton crane.  Maby
this weekend I will lift my car.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] careening ship


> Ok ok - all teasing aside, maybe it could work.
>
> But I am reminded of a gesture a Hungarian friend used to use when I was
> coming at a problem in a manner whose complications outweighed the
benefits
> of the route...
>
> He used to say "well it could work but it would be this" at which point he
> would scratch his right ear by reaching his left arm over and around his
> head..."instead of this" at which point he would quickly give his right
ear
> a scratch with his right hand.
>
> Gord (I guess I am still teasing) #426 Surprise
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> > Roger,
> > Not too worry.  It you made the effort to pad and support the hull for
some
> > distance, let's say eighteen feet along the side she is resting on, then
you
> > might get away with your leaning on her side idea.  The difficult item
would
> > be to calculate the compression of the cushioning/support material to
> > eliminate any point loading.  I might also remove the mast first.
> >
> > The time/money spent on the padding and calculations might be partially
offset
> > by the increased ease of doing the bottom job.
> >
> > You are up for it, go ahead and do the
> > calculations...........................hey how about having a truck dump
some
> > loads of sand next to the boat.  Then make a template to sculpt the sand
to
> > match the hull shape and slowly lay her over into the sand pile?  First
cover
> > the sand with Tyvek sheeting or polyester sheeting to prevent minor
scratches
> > from the sand pile.
> >
> > If the crane is available for some time then make a net out of nylon
straps,
> > remove the mast and have the crane operator lay her over into the net
and
> > lower to just above the ground.
> >
> > Hummmmmmmmmmm.  Maybe you could get some of that invisible paint that
Poppy
> > the Sailorman used against Bruno.  That way once you painted the bottom
you
> > would never have to do it again.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Roger L Kingsland <rkingsland101 at ksba.com> wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for the feedback. Looks like another high potential idea
> > bites the dust. I am gelling my thoughts on a false transom that folds
down
> > to become a swim platform/dingy dock. You guys are gonna love it!
George,
> > I will look into the swimming pool idea further and untie the dingy; I
was
> > wondering where that thing had got off to.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George Dinwiddie"
> > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Public-list] careening ship
> >
> >
> >> Yes, I would worry about point loading on the hull. Holding the weight
> >> of the boat on the keel, is one thing. Holding it on a relatively small
> >> portion of the upper hull, is quite another.
> >>
> >> I would suggest dropping the boat in a swimming pool and heeling her
over.
> >>
> >> - George
> >>
> >> P.S. I presume the mast is down and the dinghy is not tied to the
stern.
> >>
> >>
> >> Gordon Laco wrote:
> >>> Oh Roger you have a designer's knack of looking at things from new
> > angles!
> >>>
> >>> I guess what you suggest might be a sensible thing but I would
recommend
> >>> that you bear in mind that while the hulls of our boats are quite
strong
> >>> they are relatively soft. The side of the boat that she is resting
upon
> >>> will push in; and of course come back out again (presumably to her old
> >>> shape) when she is lifted again. To my mind you might be encouraging
> > the
> >>> creation of deep cracks in the somewhat brittle gel coat.
> >>>
> >>> However - that opinion is based solely on gut feeling - maybe it's a
> > great
> >>> idea... Anyone else?
> >>
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