[Public-list] careening ship

[Mike Lehman]

Why not a helicopter?

Mike Lehman
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger L Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] careening ship


> Good point Gord.  I think I just wanted to play with the 10 ton crane. 
> Maby
> this weekend I will lift my car.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] careening ship
>
>
> > Ok ok - all teasing aside, maybe it could work.
> >
> > But I am reminded of a gesture a Hungarian friend used to use when I was
> > coming at a problem in a manner whose complications outweighed the
> benefits
> > of the route...
> >
> > He used to say "well it could work but it would be this" at which point 
> > he
> > would scratch his right ear by reaching his left arm over and around his
> > head..."instead of this" at which point he would quickly give his right
> ear
> > a scratch with his right hand.
> >
> > Gord (I guess I am still teasing) #426 Surprise
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Roger,
> > > Not too worry.  It you made the effort to pad and support the hull for
> some
> > > distance, let's say eighteen feet along the side she is resting on, 
> > > then
> you
> > > might get away with your leaning on her side idea.  The difficult item
> would
> > > be to calculate the compression of the cushioning/support material to
> > > eliminate any point loading.  I might also remove the mast first.
> > >
> > > The time/money spent on the padding and calculations might be 
> > > partially
> offset
> > > by the increased ease of doing the bottom job.
> > >
> > > You are up for it, go ahead and do the
> > > calculations...........................hey how about having a truck 
> > > dump
> some
> > > loads of sand next to the boat.  Then make a template to sculpt the 
> > > sand
> to
> > > match the hull shape and slowly lay her over into the sand pile? 
> > > First
> cover
> > > the sand with Tyvek sheeting or polyester sheeting to prevent minor
> scratches
> > > from the sand pile.
> > >
> > > If the crane is available for some time then make a net out of nylon
> straps,
> > > remove the mast and have the crane operator lay her over into the net
> and
> > > lower to just above the ground.
> > >
> > > Hummmmmmmmmmm.  Maybe you could get some of that invisible paint that
> Poppy
> > > the Sailorman used against Bruno.  That way once you painted the 
> > > bottom
> you
> > > would never have to do it again.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > Roger L Kingsland <rkingsland101 at ksba.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks everyone for the feedback. Looks like another high potential 
> > > idea
> > > bites the dust. I am gelling my thoughts on a false transom that folds
> down
> > > to become a swim platform/dingy dock. You guys are gonna love it!
> George,
> > > I will look into the swimming pool idea further and untie the dingy; I
> was
> > > wondering where that thing had got off to.
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "George Dinwiddie"
> > > To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
> > >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Public-list] careening ship
> > >
> > >
> > >> Yes, I would worry about point loading on the hull. Holding the 
> > >> weight
> > >> of the boat on the keel, is one thing. Holding it on a relatively 
> > >> small
> > >> portion of the upper hull, is quite another.
> > >>
> > >> I would suggest dropping the boat in a swimming pool and heeling her
> over.
> > >>
> > >> - George
> > >>
> > >> P.S. I presume the mast is down and the dinghy is not tied to the
> stern.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Gordon Laco wrote:
> > >>> Oh Roger you have a designer's knack of looking at things from new
> > > angles!
> > >>>
> > >>> I guess what you suggest might be a sensible thing but I would
> recommend
> > >>> that you bear in mind that while the hulls of our boats are quite
> strong
> > >>> they are relatively soft. The side of the boat that she is resting
> upon
> > >>> will push in; and of course come back out again (presumably to her 
> > >>> old
> > >>> shape) when she is lifted again. To my mind you might be encouraging
> > > the
> > >>> creation of deep cracks in the somewhat brittle gel coat.
> > >>>
> > >>> However - that opinion is based solely on gut feeling - maybe it's a
> > > great
> > >>> idea... Anyone else?
> > >>
> > >> -- 
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