[alberg30] KC150 Rudder

[sunstone]

From: sunstone <sunstone at idirect.com>

Charles:
Yes they are commercially available, I think it's a 1 1/4 " shaft but
MEASURE IT to be sure - it's just a stuffing box just like the prop one.
HMP, Genco, Mason's The Store will all be able to help you. Remember to
cut the packing in concentric rings at 45o with the edges out of phase
so that the packing acts like a series of washers.   Don't coil it into
the stuffing box either.

Personally I don't trust the new "dripless" stuffing boxes.

As for dropping your rudder make sure that once you've undone the shoe
you take the rudder to rest on the ground, don't let it hang by the
upper bearing where it goes into the hull.  Reason is this the shaft is
bronze which is soft and you don't want to risk even the slightest bend
or you'll be "in the soup" for sure.

How far to drop it?  Well until it clears the area you're going to cut,
remember to remove the keyway - Bristol Marine has lots of expert
advice, right by Mason's - say hi to Lori for me.

Or take the rudder right off, I just put some teflon shims in mine to
take out the play at the shoe and intermediate, wow is the helm ever
smooth.

Call me if you've got any questions 905 521-9166.

Fair winds,

John Birch, Sunstone KC-65

Charles Haggart wrote:
> 
> From: "Charles Haggart" <chaggart at sympatico.ca>
> 
> Hi John;
> Are there stuffing boxes available for it or are we talking about something
> fabricated up. Also how far down does the rudder have to drop? ( the height
> of the rudder post in the hull?)
> 
> Charles Haggart
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   sunstone [mailto:sunstone at idirect.com]
> Sent:   Tuesday, May 18, 1999 12:47 PM
> To:     alberg30 at onelist.com
> Subject:        Re: [alberg30] KC150 Rudder
> 
> From: sunstone <sunstone at idirect.com>
> 
> Peter and Charles:
> The early A-30s, KC-150 is one of them, shared the feature of water
> coming up through the stern tube and into the cockpit and back out the
> drains.   Other than it being a pain it's normal for this to happen
> under power when pushing it a little, as long as the water isn't getting
> into the bilge.
> You can retrofit a stuffing box at the next haulout, but you'll have to
> drop the rudder enough - not a big thing if you store on dirt and can
> dig under, just make sure your cradle will allow it.
> 
> John Birch, Sunstone KC-65
> > Michael Hay wrote:
> >
> > From:  Peter Hay (Mike is my son and I am using his computer, hence
> > the name)
> >            phay at netcom.ca
> >
> >             We sail out of Goderich (Maitland Valley Marina).  I
> > bought my boat from a gentleman in Sarnia last fall.  Sounds as if you
> > have tiller steering (I have wheel steering which requires a different
> > setup).  If that is the case, you probably have a solid fiberglass
> > tube coming up from the hull to the bottom of the cockpit floor.  The
> > rudder shaft runs through it.  You probably do not have packing gland
> > as such.  The only way water can get up to the cockpit floor is if it
> > is forced up by wave action, etc.  You need to get down into the port
> > locker and take a look at the exact setup of the rudder.  I suspect
> > that the rudder tube is worn and is allowing water to freely come up
> > along the rudder shaft between it and the tube.
> >
> >             There should be lots of help available from others on the
> > onelist who are more familiar than I am about tiller configurations.
> > If in fact you have a wheel configuration I will be glad to assist
> > more.
> >
> >             Where are you moored?  I am in "TO" a lot and it would be
> > great talking to you.
> >
> > Stay in touch.
> >
> > Peter Hay
> >
> >
> >
> 
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