[alberg30] Digest Number 392

Harlan M. Doliner gorwin at flash.net
Thu Sep 30 19:45:18 PDT 1999


From: "Harlan M. Doliner" <gorwin at flash.net>

alberg30 at onelist.com wrote:
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> Message: 3
>    Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:29:04 -0400
>    From: "Doug Stevens" <doug.stevens at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: RE: Hull number
> 
> The hull no. is 583, built in 1975. The boat name is Candy cane.
> have fun.
> Doug
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forhan, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Forhan at mail.house.gov]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:21 AM
> To: alberg30 at onelist.com
> Subject: [alberg30] Hull number
> 
> From: "Forhan, Thomas" <Thomas.Forhan at mail.house.gov>
> 
> Harlan, for the record, where is your hull number located?
> 
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From:   Harlan M. Doliner [SMTP:gorwin at flash.net]
>         Sent:   Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:27 AM
>         To:     alberg30 at onelist.com
>         Subject:        Re: [alberg30] Digest Number 389
> 
>         From: "Harlan M. Doliner" <gorwin at flash.net>
> 
>         Our Alberg 30, Evergreen, is hull #489, with the original factory
>         documents indicating she was built and delivered in 1972.  Harlan
>         Doliner
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> Message: 4
>    Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:13:24 EDT
>    From: Rap1208 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Fire back in 1 and2
> 
> That's it Greg, that's the way it is.  Russ
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> Message: 5
>    Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:02:22 -0400
>    From: "Chester & Jan Koop" <cjk at tir.com>
> Subject: Full Hoist Head Sail?
> 
> I am in the process of replacing the genny (135%) on Tanagroa.  The current (and I believe original) 135 has an 18 inch wire pendant attached to the head.  The sail loft is recommending elimination of the pendant and making the new sail full hoist.  I suspect there was a valid reason for the pendant in the first place and wonder if the additional sail aloft (in a full hoist sail) would have any impact on handling/sailing characteristic or rating of an A30?  Any thoughts you have on this subject
> 
> Chet Koop
> Tangaroa #445
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> Message: 6
>    Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:09:50 EDT
>    From: A30240 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: Full Hoist Head Sail?
> 
> I would go for full hoist, perhaps a short pennant on the tack.  Just enough
> to get it above the lifeline and reduce chafe on the pulpit.  For a smaller
> sail, working jib I would raise it about the 18".  This way you can bag the
> #1 still on the forstay and set the jib above the bagged #1.  Much less to
> handle in a quick sail change when the wind picks up.
> 
> Jim Davis
> Isa Lei
> 240
> 
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> Message: 7
>    Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:19:27 -0400
>    From: sunstone <sunstone at idirect.com>
> Subject: Re: Full Hoist Head Sail?
> 
> Listen to your sailmaker.  You will be pleased with the results.
> As for rating, PHRF does not measure luff length and the base rating is
> for a 150-152.9% besides.  A 135 would be a number 2 which will sparkle
> in heavy air with the full hoist.   If you want to splurge on a great #3
> get a 100% full hoist and you'll demolish the competition who are still
> using the old working sail #3.
> 
> I do speak from experience, but have the sails cut fairly flat as there
> is a lot of head stay sag to compensate for regardless as to how hard
> you put on the backstay.   The biggest mistake modern sailmakers make
> with these boats is to cut the sail too full and a large part of it is
> because of the headstay sag factor.
> 
> Go for it.
> 
> John Birch
> 
> > Chester & Jan Koop wrote:
> >
> > I am in the process of replacing the genny (135%) on Tanagroa.  The
> > current (and I believe original) 135 has an 18 inch wire pendant
> > attached to the head.  The sail loft is recommending elimination of
> > the pendant and making the new sail full hoist.  I suspect there was a
> > valid reason for the pendant in the first place and wonder if the
> > additional sail aloft (in a full hoist sail) would have any impact on
> > handling/sailing characteristic or rating of an A30?  Any thoughts you
> > have on this subject would be welcomed.
> >
> > Chet Koop
> > Tangaroa #445
> 
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> Message: 8
>    Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:25:08 -0400
>    From: sunstone <sunstone at idirect.com>
> Subject: Re: Full Hoist Head Sail?
> 
> If it is a full hoist there will be little or no room for a tack
> pendant, I would pitch the pendant and go for the full hoist in either a
> 1,2, or3 as the performance is worth it.
> 
> A30240 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > From: A30240 at aol.com
> >
> > I would go for full hoist, perhaps a short pennant on the tack.  Just enough
> > to get it above the lifeline and reduce chafe on the pulpit.  For a smaller
> > sail, working jib I would raise it about the 18".  This way you can bag the
> > #1 still on the forstay and set the jib above the bagged #1.  Much less to
> > handle in a quick sail change when the wind picks up.
> >
> > Jim Davis
> > Isa Lei
> > 240
> >
> >
> 
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