[alberg30] Lectrasan MSD

[sunstone]

From: sunstone <sunstone at idirect.com>

Bob;
We sailed a 30 for years, #544, and she had a 20 gallon holding tank in
the keel which allowed for 10 days of normal usage for 2 people using
water conservation in the flush cycle.   We cruise for 3-4 weeks at a
stretch and pump out twice on average.

Certainly the need to conserve water and to know how much or little one
can get away with in the flush is a learning curve but I stand by the
previous statement on no discharge.

The problem lies with the excess nutrients in treated or untreated
sewage which in the Great Lakes helps to encourage eutriphication which
results in algae blooms and foul waters.   The problem is not dissimilar
to the Chesapeake experience.

Certainly boats do not account for all of it, or even a significant
amount, but it is an incremental process, the reduction of pollution.
Besides, 10 or so boats in a smaller anchorage can have a real impact.

At any rate it's no big deal up here and I would suggest in a few years
it won't be that big a deal in your community either as people adapt to
the changes.

Good luck, the fellow with the keel holding tank pictures has a workable
system much like ours.

John

RABBIT649 at aol.com wrote:
> 
> From: RABBIT649 at aol.com
> 
> Yes, John, it's reasonable for weekend cruises, but 9-10 gallons is not
> enough for much longer.
> The Lectrasan does NOT dump, in your words, "raw sewage". After treatment, it
> is bacteriologically clean and completely biodegradeable. Disallowing it and
> going to "no discharge" is largely a "knee-jerk" reaction from people who
> won't study or don't understand the facts and figures. And if it results in
> people dumping raw sewage anyway because they're up to their eyeballs in it,
> it is counterproductive.
> Regards,
> Paul
> Ashwagh #23
> 
> In a message dated 9/1/99 9:14:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> sunstone at idirect.com writes:
> 
> > From: sunstone <sunstone at idirect.com>
> >
> >  Gee we've had holding tank, no discharge laws for years, seems perfectly
> >  reasonable to me, in fact I can't believe that any place on earth would
> >  allow raw discharge.
> >
> >  Get after your legislators to require all marinas and yacht clubs to
> >  have pump out facilities, I mean you can't operate a restaurant without
> >  wash room facilities, apply the same principle.
> >
> >  The world will definitely be a better place for it.
> >
> >  John Birch, Sunstone KC-65
> >
> >
> >  Robert E Johns wrote:
> >  >
> >  > From: Robert E Johns <bobjns at nais.com>
> >  >
> >  > >From: RABBIT649 at aol.com
> >  > >
> >  > >Dear George,
> >  > >    I have a RARITAN Lectrasan somebody gave me that I havn't installed
> > yet.
> >  > >It zaps the waste with about 50 amps for three minutes and is supposed
> to
> >  > >convert it to be legal for discharge in some places. Do you know where
> > and
> >  > >where not? I forgot what the guy told me.
> >  > >Paul,
> >  > >Ashwagh #23
> >  >
> >  > Paul,
> >  >
> >  > We installed a Lectrasan after we bought Wind Call in 1976. It involved
> >  > rebuilding the head area including moving the panel inboard an inch or
> two
> >  > and using two doors instead of three. We got rid of it a few years ago
> > when
> >  > more and more places we cruise became no discharge areas. We installed a
> 9
> >  > gallon holding tank in the space where the Lectrasan was, again having to
> >  > rebuild the head. The 9 gallon size is too small, but I didn't want to
> >  > install a holding tank under the forward berths or use a flexible tank.
> We
> >  > end up causing more pollution than we ever did with the Lectrasan because
> >  > many areas don't have pumpout stations and when we dump the tank, it is
> >  > raw, though macerated, sewage. We have stopped the long cruises because
> of
> >  > medical problems, but our cruising area was from Long Island Sound north.
> >  > The most prominent place to go to no discharge is Block Island, and they
> >  > really do enforce it, but more and more smaller places have gone no
> >  > discharge and it is obvious the the handwriting is on the wall. There is
> > no
> >  > reasonable answer.
> >  >
> >  > Regards,
> >  >         Bob Johns, Wind Call, #397
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