[alberg30] Take non A-30 stuff off the list please!

[Scott Wallace]

From: Scott Wallace <tristan at one.net>

Aye, Well said, Captain George!

Scott Wallace

George Dinwiddie wrote:

> From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at min.net>
>
> Dan, et al,
>
> I find myself with sympathies on both sides of this issue.  On the
> one hand, I find that trying to limit a discussion too narrowly
> tends to impoverish the discourse.  On the other hand I, too, have
> experienced situations where the noise became so much greater
> than the signal that it was no longer worth my time to sort through
> it.  I've noticed that a number of people have left the list
> recently.
>
> Dan, I also appreciate the manner in which you broached the subject.
> I'd like to call others' attention to the fact that Dan was not
> suggesting that people silently lurk, but that they limit off-topic
> discussions.  The line of appropriateness is going to vary from
> person to person, but an occasional discussion of the topic is
> not out of line.  I also know from experience that sailing forums
> tend to wander further afield in the winter when we can't get out
> on the water.
>
> I have no list in playing message cop, but I would like to make a
> few suggestions.
>
> When you send a message or reply to a message, do give consideration
> to the question of whether it should go to a single person or to
> the list.  Onelist.com makes this a little more difficult by setting
> the "Reply-to" header to point to the list.  This makes it more
> difficult to reply off the list, but it can still generally be done.
>
> If the topic of discussion is changing, take the time to change the
> subject header.  It's much easier to skip over uninteresting
> material if it's appropriately labeled.
>
> Also, consider trimming the amount of quoted material.  While it can
> be very confusing when a reply includes no context, it can be equally
> confusing and annoying when the entire thread is quoted in a reply.
> I find it especially annoying when the advertising trailers are not
> trimmed from the reply.  Surely they're not of importance.  It's better
> for the one message poster to clean things up than for all of the
> message readers to have to deal with it.
>
> Finally, please remember that we're all friends here.  In a textual
> medium, it's very easy to misconstrue someone's remarks.  In face to
> face conversations, you have many non-verbal cues that are missing
> here.  Always give others the benefit of the doubt.  Respond civilly
> rather than take offense at their remarks.
>
>  - George
>
>
> Dan Sternglass wrote:
> >
> > With all due respect, I have found myself deleting close to 100% of the
> > A-30 mail in the past few weeks. I -strongly- second the suggestion to
> > limit the discussion (generally at least) to A-30 related topics.
> > Nautical literature and comparisons of other boats are interesting to
> > some, I'm sure, but really they're off topic when they become protracted
> > discussions in their own right.
> >
> > Most e-mail programs let you make your own small lists for that sort of
> > purpose. Once you get a thread going, just <reply to all> and everyone
> > on **that** list will get the replies.
> >
> > George?... as moderator of this list, can you render an opinion on
> > this... maybe I'm out of line here, but I bet I'm not the only one.
> >
> > --Dan S.
> > dans at stmktg.com
> > Watcher of the Skies, #201, 1966, Cayuga Lake, Ithaca, NY
> >
>
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