[Alberg30] lifelines, shrouds, and ballast

[Sommer, John]

I also have insurance with Smithwick & Clark for #5 for approximately $400
per year ($20,000 hull, dingy, outboard, Cape May to Canada, $300,000
liability, theft, $250 deductible, etc)

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From: chrishardy [mailto:chrishardy at tds.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [Alberg30] lifelines, shrouds, and ballast


I have insurance with smithwick and clark for #296  165.00 per year  incl.
$17,000 hull and dingy coverage   cape may to canada border

R.C. Alley wrote:


I second George's opinion in regard to insurance companies.  I recently
changed insurance companies, and was told by Boat US that they wouldn't
insure a boat as old as #219, REGARDLESS OF CONDITION.  I was told by the
rep for the broker I did go with (IMIS) to stay away from surveyors who do
work for BoatUS.  I can see why.

Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Dinwiddie"   <mailto:gdinwiddie at min.net> <gdinwiddie at min.net>
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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Alberg30] lifelines, shrouds, and ballast



J Bergquist said:

When I had my boat surveyed before purchase, the surveyor (Fred
Hecklinger) told me it was a problem that my lifelines are not secured
to the upper shrouds. He said that the unsupported span of the lifelines
was too great between the stanchions forward and aft of the shrouds and
that they should be secured to the uppers. I have no stanchions in way
of the shrouds, and I assume the rest of you also have none. I (not
really knowing anything about this particular nuance) simply assumed he
knew what he was talking about.

Probably the span doesn't meet current ABYC recommendations.  Certainly
the height of the lifelines doesn't.  Didn't he mention that?  Maybe
you can sue the surveyor if you fall overboard.

Rest assured that it is not normal to have the lifelines secured to the
shrouds.  Nor is it normal to have a stanchion at the chainplates.
I don't know of any case where this has proven to be a problem, but
you really shouldn't depend on the lifelines to keep you on board,
anyway.  If your insurance company is insisting on a redesign of the
boat, maybe it's time for a different insurance company.


The surveyor said that this failure was a big problem and that I would
have to grind it out, down to bare metal, rebed with polysulfide, and
then re-seal the top of the ballast with fiberglass.

I'm not as familiar with the older boats, so I don't know if such a
crack is common or not.  If you're worried about it, I'd fill the crack
with some thickened epoxy (mayonnaise consistence, I'd think) poured
into it.  This will seal it.  The ballast is one piece, and will not
bounce out of the crack when you fall off a wave.

 - George


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