[Alberg30] Catch-22

Mon Dec 1 06:34:26 PST 2003

You had the prop and shaft off it seems. I could have removed the shaft and
rudder if the prop and shaft were not there but on my boat both of those are
new and I'm not prepared to get that involved.

Reading the many pages of documentation on A30 rudders, there are several
ways it was constructed it seems. On a 1966 rudder, the 5 bolts go through
the post and above the straps to 5 nuts that are embedded in Marine-Tex
(above the straps). Once you dig out to the nuts and remove them the bolts
slide out easily, removing the rudder and leaving the post in place. The
post can't be removed on mine because it binds with the prop shaft as it's
lowered from the hull.

Bill Blevins
Sabrina #158

On 12/1/03 9:05 AM, "sousa, stephen (ENG)" <sousa_stephen at emc.com> wrote:

> Bill,
> 
> When I removed the rudder it came out as a complete unit post and rudder. It
> sounds as though you removed the rudder from the straps and post, is that
> correct?
> 
> Stephen
> 
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> Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Catch-22
> 
> 
> (I have explained the benefits of the A30 group to the new owner of
> Matchmaker.)
> 
> On the rudder shaft topic, I can't see that it will come off without
> removing the shaft whether or not the prop is there. My shaft and prop are
> new so I'm not going to mess with that this year.
> 
> The shaft is worn where it exits the hull above the rudder. Other than that
> it looks fine.
> 
> The rudder is in my garage where I'll be rebuilding the bottom pintle
> section.
> 
> I learned the hard way that there is an easy way and a hard way to remove
> the rudder. I started digging in for the nuts on the wrong side of the
> rudder before I realized that the other side was Marine-Tex or some similar
> putty. Now I have to fix holes on both sides! Live and learn.
> 
> I took extensive photos on everything related to the rudder on a 1966 era
> boat if anyone is interested.
> 
> Bill Blevins
> Sabrina #158
> 
> --
> 
> On 12/1/03 7:54 AM, "sousa, stephen (ENG)" <sousa_stephen at emc.com> wrote:
> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> You can remove the prop without removing the rudder post, a two blade
>> will slip past the rudder a three blade will have to be moved side to
>> side for removal. I think when I removed the rudder/post I had the
>> shaft out of the boat but cannot remember for sure.
>> 
>> I am happy to hear the crew of Matchmaker is fine. I think we all
>> would like to hear some move details concerning this situation. There
>> are a few mast companies in New England if something isn't available
>> in the Maryland area.
>> 
>> Stephen
>> #114
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Todd Redhead
>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 9:54 PM
>> To: Alberg 30 public list
>> Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Catch-22
>> 
>> 
>> What exactly happened?  The boat went over?  I guess due to high winds
>> - did they have sails up?  Then they "cut the main"?  What does this
>> mean?
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> Bill Blevins wrote:
>> 
>>> I removed the rudder today. How do you remove the rudder post without
>>> removing the prop first? How do you remove the prop without removing
>>> the rudder post?
>>> 
>>> Bill Blevins
>>> Sabrina #158
>>> 
>>> Also, Matchmaker was dismasted last night on the Bay near Windmill
>>> Point when that cold front came through at about 7 p.m. The boat went
>>> over
>> on it's side and when the main was cut, the boom went vertical and
>> twisted the foot of the mast from the deck and over the side. Everyone
>> is fine though cold I hear. Boat was towed into Reedville. Probably be
>> looking for a mast over the winter. Anyone have any ideas on finding a
>> new mast cause this one's bent in the middle?
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