[Alberg30] Pictures of Alberg30's

Tue Jan 28 13:28:34 PST 2003

It's easy to see from this how two people with the best intentions can get 
into a conflict. George has given us something wonderful for many years, 
largely out of a sense of communal generousity. Bill has expertise and 
resources and wants to do something similar, with slightly different emphasis 
or services.
If I were in George's place, I don't see how I could avoid feeling challenged 
or competed with, possibly silently criticized for not offering enough, even 
though that clearly isn't Bill's intention. And feelings, anyone's feelings, 
but especially the feelings of someone to whom we owe so much are important. 
Important, too, are Bill's feelings, about wanting to do something and having 
done nothing wrong, but getting all the stonewall treatment from people here. 
How to resolve the conflicting needs of good people?
I see only two alternatives that respect both parties. Either Bill politely 
goes his way and does his own thing seperately in the god old American spirit 
of "building a better mousetrap", or...perhaps, with the added resources that 
Bill has at his disposal, the projects can be combined and the ideas Bill has 
added to the .org site, or Bill and George work together on a the mutually 
linked .com site. Now that might not be easy. To take advantage of the 
additional server space/power that Bill's boss is offering, it might be 
necessary to move .org or run it under different software, cooperating with 
Bill's companie's webmaster, and that kind of conversion may not be easy. But 
it is a worthwhile consideration for people to have, adjunt to the main site, 
a special little "web berth" for their own boat and it's pictures, problems, 
improvements, projects and proud moments, maybe even a small private forum 
for each boat and a common index of links for project descriptions and 
resources. We would certainly be the first class boat to have that kind of 
site sophistication. And, it might result in reducing or eliminating the 
undefrayed expenses that George has been picking up.
All I ask is a consideration by both parties of what would be involved and 
perhaps a discussion about it here. 
At least consider it.
Regards,
Paul Cicchetti
#23 Ashwagh

In a message dated 1/28/2003 11:46:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
billblevins at mac.com writes:

> Subj: Re: [Alberg30] Pictures of Alberg30's 
>  Date: 1/28/2003 11:46:30 AM Eastern Standard Time
>  From: <A HREF="mailto:billblevins at mac.com">billblevins at mac.com</A>
>  Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:public-list at alberg30.org">public-list at alberg30.org</A>
>  To: <A HREF="mailto:public-list at alberg30.org">public-list at alberg30.org</A>
>  Sent from the Internet 
> 
> 
> 
> Not at all! I totally support what you do for the association via the main 
> Web site. That is a vast amount of valuable information that is totally 
> different than my question.
> 
> What I'm suggesting is offering free Web space to A30 members so that they 
> can upload their own photos and building a site for their own boat without 
> bothering you on a daily basis. I think it would be cool to have a site for 
> every boat owner who wanted one - rather than have one person use 
> anglefire, one on this free site and one on another. To get them all on one 
> place.
> 
> Think of it as a gift. My boss has agreed to donate the Web space as long 
> as it's not "for profit" as that would conflict with my job.
> 
> Yes, we have the Alberg 30 wiki set up, but it seems difficult for even me 
> to use regularly and posting photos is my main interest.
> 
> Bill Blevins
> Sabrina, Alberg 30 #158
> --
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:30AM, George Dinwiddie <
> gdinwiddie at alberg30.org> wrote:
> 
> >Already people have the capability to post their photos, just by 
> >emailing them to me.
> >
> >There are no pop-up ads on this site, either.  There is advertising; 
> >I've run a web site about the A30 for 8 years at my own expense, and the 
> >affiliate programs have helped defray some of those expenses.  Do you 
> >find those ads objectionable?
> >
> >I guess I don't understand your intentions.  Your message reads like an 
> >advertisement intended to divert traffic from alberg30.org to 
> alberg30.com.
> >
> > - George
> >
> >
> >Bill Blevins wrote:
> >>For my day job, I run an Internet company and on the side I am
> >>building a site for our A30 SABRINA.
> >>
> >>Is there any interest from this group in a FREE community web site
> >>where only A30 owners can upload photos of their boat and build a Web
> >>page? (No pop-up ads either!) You wouldn't need to know HTML, Web
> >>design etc. Just how to type and find a photograph on your computer.
> >>
> >>I love looking at photos of other people's Albergs and am planning to
> >>launch a site where we could share our photos (now that most of us
> >>have digital cameras).
> >>
> >>This came about because I hate the geocities and anglefire mess that
> >>happens when you visit one of these sites, not to mention the spam
> >>that's generated by registering on those types of sites.
> >>
> >>Thoughts?
> >>
> >>Bill Blevins Sabrina, Alberg30 #158 
> >
> >-- 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  Hope your road is a long one.             George Dinwiddie
> >  May there be many summer mornings when,     gdinwiddie at alberg30.org
> >  with what pleasure, what joy,          http://www.Alberg30.org
> >  you enter harbors you're seeing for the first time;
> >                      from 'Ithaka' by C.P. Cavafy
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