[Alberg30] Lake Ont. PHRF

Dave Terrell DTERRELL at message.nmc.edu
Thu May 15 10:45:40 PDT 2003


I live in Traverse City Michigan. I think there are six albergs in the
grand travese areas. there are two 30's in west bay at the same marina.
i think there are two 30s in Northport. There is one Alberg 37 I know of
 for sure in west bay and another one at charlevoix. All these places
are too distant to to Wednesday night fleet racing, but i am thinking of
organizing an Alberg Rendezvous targeted at these six boats. If anyone
knows of others in our area, I would like to know about it.

>>> mainstay at csolve.net 05/15/03 10:40AM >>>
on 5/15/03 8:26 AM, Larry Morris at larmor at myexcel.com wrote:

> 
> It is easy for you to say that one design is the only way to go,
because in
> Annapolis there is a choice.  It did not sound to me like they have a
Alberg
> 30 one design class in the northern great lakes.
> 
> I say get out their and bash it around with your local fleet and have
some
> fun.  Chances are they have an established rating for the local
racing
> conditions.
> 
> 
> Fair Winds
> 
> Larry Morris
> Solstice #501
> 
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> 
> Each PHRF fleet bases it's handicapping on previous performance of
similar
> boats-there will be differences (geographically) in fleets depending
on the
> skill level of particular boats that have raced PHRF. I raced
Checkmate on
> WED.
> night @ ST. Michaels my rating was 218; my closest competition was a
Triton
> with a rating of 228-a difficult obstacle to surmount.
> 
> My theory is Albergs that have raced one design (with each other)
move up a
> learning curve far quicker than any other form of racing-you
immediately see
> what works and what doesn't. The Annapolis group benefited bunches,
so the
> Annapolis PHRF fleets therefore have lower ratings(i.e. lower rating
> numbers)
> for Albergs.
> 
> The lesson here is; if some part of your mentality sees racing as a
device
> to
> learn to sail more efficiently, sail one design. Everything else is
doo-doo.
> 
> Michael
> #220
> 
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Hello Larry - 

Yes - I agree... while a one-design fleet is ideal there just ain't
one
here.  I am quite used to taking on boats half my weight from my
Folkboat
days years ago.   

There is a particular delicious pleasure in defeating "modern" boats
when
conditions allow my old, narrow, heavy boat to shine - then taking the
rating handicap to really grind them down.  Kinda like Ghengis Khan
said...
"true happiness is defeating your enemies, riding his horses and
listening
to the lamenting of his women". Or something like that.

Gord

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