[Alberg30] More Radical Changes
Roger L. Kingsland
rkingsland101 at ksba.com
Wed Oct 1 04:29:55 PDT 2003
Mike,
Now your talkin. Can I get a bow sprit with one of those dolphin strikers
and a little square sail on the very end? I could also put a crow's nest on
the new mizzen.
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
To: "Alberg 30 public list" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Tensioning Dual Stays
> Roger, have you considered adding a bowsprit and moving the headstay
forward? This would give you better separation between the head sails. Then
you could add a missen mast to balance out the lee helm.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger L. Kingsland
> To: Alberg 30 public list
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Tensioning Dual Stays
>
>
> Calvin;
>
> Are you contemplating something like the following I posted on 8/8/03?
>
> "Also, I am considering adding an inner forestay for my hank on working
jib
> and #1 (both in good shape). It might cost less than modifying the
sails
> for roller feruling (my #2, is the only sail set up for feruling) and
give
> me additional flexibility in changing headsails for wind conditions.
Since
> the roller feruling #2 is the "middle" sail, I could hank on the next
sail
> in advance (up or down in size depending on wind trend) and change sails
> later without having to go to the foredeck. Of course, the #2 would have
to
> be feruled on every tack/jibe. My guess is the new forestay would have
to
> run parallel the existing about 6"-10" aft. Any thoughts on how
feasible
> this would be? Has anyone tried it?"
>
> I also sent the following to the navel architect that surveyed my boat
but
> have not heard back.
>
> Mike;
>
> Looking over my sail inventory I discovered I have an almost new, Hild
150
> and a very heavy working jib in good condition. Both are hank on and
Mahina
> has been converted to Harken roller ferruling. I have a 130 set up for
> roller ferruling; it is by North and made of "Norlam" which I
understand is
> some type of Mylar. It is in OK shape except the UV protection is shot
and
> it is very grey with mildew.
>
> I thought of adding a second head stay parallel to and about 8" inside
of
> the roller head stay. That way I could have the middle sail on a roller
and
> have the light and heavy sails available on the new head stay. I would
> either roll up the 130 to tack or disconnect the new head stay until
needed.
> With the "middle" sail on the furreler, I would have plenty of time to
put
> the right sail on the new stay as the wind increases or decreases.
>
> I could also design the new head stay to attach to a second new chain
plate
> above the bulkhead separating the chain locker from the forward cabin.
It
> looks to be about 1/3 of the way back to the mast. This way I could
move
> the center of effort closer to the mast in high wind (say working jib or
> storm jib with triple reef main). Although, with the mast already so
far
> forward, it may have little advantage.
>
> I have attached a picture of the bow. Looks like new stay will not fit
at
> aft end of stainless bow base plate so (I plan to remove the deck
mounted
> anchor and install rollers). I thought of glassing in a mini bulkhead
to
> hold a thru deck chain plate at the forward end of the chain locker
(perhaps
> 4" to 6" aft of the bow plate). Also attached are plan, section and
> elevation drawings.
>
> Do you think this is feasible? It will probably cost less than
modifying 2
> sails for the roller but I might be missing something. Also, is there
any
> issue with increasing the rigging loads (particularly the mast
compression
> [I do have the add on alum. gusset plates at the door header under the
mast
> step]) or will I simply tighten the roller or the new head stay but not
> both?
>
> So many questions, your feedback would be appreciated; no hurry though.
>
> Roger
> (412) 252-1500
>
> If so, I would like to learn more about your solution since I am still
> considering it for my A30.
>
> Roger Kingsland
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian and Elaine Timmins" <timmins at optonline.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 public list" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Alberg30] Tensioning Dual Stays
>
>
> > Depends on how they're installed.
> > Need more info (or pictures).
> > Brian ex#497
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Voyager Toronto" <voyagertoronto at hotmail.com>
> > To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 10:00 PM
> > Subject: [Alberg30] Tensioning Dual Stays
> >
> >
> > > What's the correct tuning when both a (Profurl) furling system AND a
> > > separate forestay are installed?
> > > Calvin
> > > Voyager #30, Toronto
> > >
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