[Public-list] Toe Rail

[C.B. Currier]

Older boats have taffrails like:

http://alberg30.org/pictures/CanAm2002/photo30.html
Carnival Lady

My boat #57 Infinity Has the same closed Rail.


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C.B. Currier
Infinity # 57
Daybreak #458


George Dinwiddie said:
> Look at http://alberg30.org/pictures/CanAm2002/photo33.html and
> http://alberg30.org/pictures/CanAm2002/photo5.html and you'll
> see the open taffrail I described.  Maybe that was an option or a
> retrofit, but I've seen them on a lot of older boats.
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:18:39AM -0700, Dan Pinson wrote:
>>    This  is  interesting.  Mine is an 'older' boat (1965) but I don't
>> see
>>    any  drains  other than the scuppers. Can you or someone post a pic
>> of
>>    that?  Also,  my  taffrail  is solid (laminated w/no gaps) rather
>> than
>>    what you describe.
>>    Thanks,
>>    Dan
>>    George Dinwiddie wrote on 8/11/2004 7:19 AM:
>>
>> My concern is that you'll be creating new problems for yourself trying
>> to fix something that "only" lasted 40 years.
>>
>> The new boats actually seem to have more drainage problems than the
>> older ones, but all of them need some motion to drain all parts of the
>> deck.  All the boats I've seen (or, at least, noticed) sit a little low
>> in the stern.  Whether that's due to modifications in the design and
>> construction (using iron rather than lead ballast, for instance), or out
>> propensity to put stuff into the cockpit lockers and lazarette, I don't
>> know.
>>
>> The older boats have large areas on the taffrail to let the water out.
>> This lets them drain much faster than the new boats when underway, but
>> it also considerably weakens the structure of the taffrail.  I've seen
>> them break under the weight of a foot.
>>
>> If you raise the toerail off the deck, you're going to have similar
>> problems with sturdiness.
>>
>> If you haven't pulled up and rebedded the toerail, there's no chance you
>> could have fixed any existing problem with the bedding.  Caulking on the
>> outside of a joint is only a temporary stopgap measure--it won't fix
>> anything.  I think that problem will go away for a couple decades if you
>> rebed well with a good caulk.
>>
>> If you're concerned about standing water, you could add extra drains
>> under the toerail.  On the older boats, this is easy to do because the
>> drains consist of channels on the underside of the toerail.
>>
>> Honestly, I think this is a case for "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
>>
>>  - George
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 09:55:40PM -0700, Dan Pinson wrote:
>>
>>
>>    George,
>>    There  are spots on deck - especially aft - that don't drain well
>> when
>>    the  boat  is moored. Not pools or water but a some 'spoonfuls' at
>> the
>>    base  of  the  rails. Naturally, there is water on the deck under
>> way.
>>    So, it seems an uphill battle keeping the rails properly bedded to
>> the
>>    deck  and  one another at the joints when they're continually
>> assailed
>>    by  water.  By the joints in my taft rail, for example, I believe
>> it's
>>    not  the  first problem. On the other hand, my boat is almost 40
>> years
>>    old. The rails surely haven't been replaced at all or too many times.
>>    Mostly,  I'm  thinking  if  I  take  them  up - can I improve them
>> (by
>>    getting them up of the deck).
>>    ..Dan
>>
>>
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