[Public-list] Anyone looking for a project?
Jack Vanderloo
jvdloo at sympatico.ca
Tue Nov 9 09:23:01 PST 2004
George,
You are correct about the embedded numbers on the transom. My boat is
some 500 km from here, but I've checked documentation I have at home; it
reads ZWB306181277. (Sorry, forgot about the "30" in my original post.)
I recall that there is also a small (2"x1"?), barely legible aluminum
plate mounted at the companionway, just above the compass, over the
bridgedeck, but these numbers were by no means a duplicate of the ZWB
number above.
Jack
George Dinwiddie wrote:
>The numbers they mention are the USCG-required hull numbers that were
>instituted in 1973 (or late 1972). These numbers must be embedded in
>the transom or the boat cannot be sold in the US. I wasn't aware that
>Whitby ever put that number on the metal builder's plate.
>
>Jack, Villo, please correct me if I'm wrong. My 1973 boat has the
>7-digit Whitby number on the plate and the ZWB Coast Guard number on the
>transom. (And, yes, the numbers don't quite match.)
>
> - George
>
>On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 10:41:30AM -0500, Mike Lehman wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>Mike Lehman
>>
>>
>>><((((?>?.???`?...?><((((?>
>>>
>>>
>>Wow! I am confused
>>
>>so let's see...
>>
>>
>>Villo has 641 (ZWB 6410579) [Hull # + Month + Year] with the new numbering
>>system
>>
>>then Jack has 618 which would be (ZWB 618??77 or 78) if the new numbering
>>system were used
>>
>>In either case, if you are asking about builders plates, they only have
>>room for 7 digits. Which would look some thing like 3079641 for Villo's
>>boat.
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: Jack Vanderloo <jvdloo at sympatico.ca>
>>Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
>>To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Public-list] Anyone looking for a project?
>>Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:15:50 -0500
>>
>>Ahoy Villo:
>>
>>La confusion, c'est moi!
>>I have hull number 618 with sail number KC641.
>>When Whitby originally laid up hull number 618 in late 1977, early 1978,
>>there were minor aesthetic flaws in gelcoat colouration, i.e., splotches.
>>I suspect strongly that they held off and commissioned her (hull 618) much
>>later - immediately after hull/sail KC640 - and gave your hull 641, sail
>>number KC618 in May 1979, ergo the ZWB 6410579.
>>The gelcoat defects have never bothered me as I Awlgripped hull 618 when I
>>bought her in early 1993.
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Jack Vanderloo
>>Aldabi KC641
>>
>>Villo Marmei wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi Mike.....
>>>I have this funny situation....My hull plate and transom stamp reads ZWB30
>>>64105 79 and my sail number is KC-618. That is...hull number 641 and sail
>>>number 618. Someone else here must have hull 618 and sails 641.
>>>Another question ??? What should I call myself ??? KC641 or KC618 ??? Go
>>>figure ???
>>>Take care Villo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 01:14 PM 10/18/2004, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Often hull number and sail number become confused, because a sail can
>>>>change hands many times. Whitby did make boats with the smae hull number
>>>>for the first couple of years: 1 for Canada and the other fro the US
>>>>market. The sails indicated US22 or KC22. This practiced stopped around
>>>>hull #26 [I think] maybe some old-timers can help to determine when this
>>>>practice was stopped. I do not beleive there are 2 boats with #306
>>>>however.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Lehman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>><((((?>?.???`?...?><((((?>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----Original Message Follows----
>>>>From: Michael Connolly <crufone at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
>>>>To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [Public-list] Anyone looking for a project?
>>>>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:07:05 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>>Interesting,
>>>>One the list is hull# 306 in Grenada and now we have this boat Down East
>>>>with hull # 306.
>>>>
>>>>Did Whitby ever make two boats with the same hull# ? Does someone have
>>>>the scoop on this?
>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>FINNUS505 at aol.com wrote:
>>>>Hello my Alberg 30 Friends,
>>>>
>>>>Looking through the local paper I saw an ad for an Alberg 30, priced 3200
>>>>bucks. Rona and I had to go see it.
>>>>
>>>>1968 hull # 306 had some back luck 15 years ago. She was docked next to a
>>>>motor boat that caught fire. 306 had significant damage to her cabin
>>>>trunk and
>>>>cabin interior. The deck and topsides on the port side were blistered
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>from the
>>>
>>>
>>>>heat. But she had a new Westerbeke diesel installed just three months
>>>>before, so her current owner, a marine surveyer, bought her from the
>>>>insurance
>>>>company.
>>>>
>>>>He began to reconstruct the cabin trunk. From what I saw yesterday, it
>>>>was a
>>>>good effort. But he stopped before he did the finishing work, cut out for
>>>>the
>>>>doghouse ports or the main companion in the way of the cabin top, or
>>>>re-installed the forward ports, and the boat has sat open like this for
>>>>the past 10
>>>>years. There is a garden growing in the cockpit. The port toe rail is
>>>>off, as
>>>>are both cockpit coamings. The for-hatch is in place, but coming apart at
>>>>the seams; same for the aft-hatch. The cockpit locker hatch covers are
>>>>weathered, but have very minor delamination of the seams, and are still
>>>>salvageable.
>>>>
>>>>The drain plug was out, so she did not fill with water, but the interior
>>>>of
>>>>the boat is shot, from fire and smoke damage, and exposure all these
>>>>years.
>>>>The engine does not appear to have been in direct contact with rain or
>>>>snow,
>>>>but it has alot of superficial rust. I don't know how the alternator or
>>>>starter, etc, could not have been affected.
>>>>
>>>>The owner says he has all the boat's gear, but they were at a different
>>>>location, and I didn't go to see them.
>>>>
>>>>No doubt she looks pretty sad right now. Like finding an Opera Diva after
>>>>a
>>>>tragic amnesiatic car accident in a homeless shelter. But even with moldy,
>>>>mildewed, generic wrecks to either side, weeds below, tree branches
>>>>hanging
>>>>just above, still her classic Alberg lines are undiminished. The guy is
>>>>asking
>>>>3200, but I got the distinct impression he is tired of having her sitting
>>>>around, and would be glad to see her go at any price. He 'threatened'
>>>>that he was
>>>>going to pull the engine out to sell, and bulldoze the hull.
>>>>
>>>>For someone who wants an Alberg 30 with a Westerbeke, both needing a lot
>>>>of
>>>>work, but both high on the potential list, this is worth a look. I hate
>>>>to see
>>>>her lost. Pass the word around amongst your wharf-rat friends.............
>>>>
>>>>The boat is in Seekonk, Mass, which is about an hour Southwest of Boston
>>>>and
>>>>a half hour or so North from Newport, RI. Seller's cell # is 774-991-1636
>>>>
>>>>Lee and Rona Trachtenberg
>>>>Stargazer #255
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