[Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?

[Michael Connolly]

Mike,
I suppose that proposition was in your prenuptial agreement.....................otherwise.......  :-o,  :-o
 
Might just be easier to purchase one of those 'wider' boats and let the Albergs be for the more adventuresome skinny people.
Michael

Mike Lehman <sail_505 at hotmail.com> wrote:
Tell her to sleep in the cockpit. One cold night, with rain and mosquitos 
and she will gladly slepp in the v-berth again.



Mike Lehman
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----Original Message Follows----
From: Michael Connolly 
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Subject: Re: [Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:57:21 -0700 (PDT)

Roger,
I guess that I would rather use a piano hinge so that the platform would 
fold in half for storage. One could, in addition, have a fore and aft 
section each that would also fold in half. Thus the folding platforms might 
be only 18" by 36" by 2" thick. One would have two of these that could more 
easily be stored on board. I was imagining this arrangement to be set up 
only when needed at sleep time and then disassembled and put up when 
underway. When set up it would make it very ackward to get around the main 
cabin.

Oh yes, another possibility would be to make two panels of appropriate 
length, that would be supported by cross members in either cleats or 
brackets. These panels could then be stored under the seatee cushions one 
on each side and the cross members in the drawers underneath the seatees?

The major consideration in my book would be to design the support brackets 
on the inside of the seatee trim to not be dangerious protrusions that could 
cause injury when not in use.

I am sure that others on this list have worked this arrangement out and can 
comment further.

Michael

"Roger L. Kingsland" wrote:
Michael,

One thought I had but have not confirmed is doable is to hinge the panel at
the forward end so it can be placed in a vertical position when someone
wants to exit the berth. Of course, in that position, it would get wider as
it gets taller and the question is would it block access to the forward ends
of the V berths too much.

I saw a photograph somewhere of the removable cabin table stored against the
overhead at the forward end of the V berth. This could also be a good place
to store "the wedge." If I ever install an anchor locker hatch at the
pointy end, it will be possible to use this space (above your feet) for
additional shelf or locker space which could go down to about 14" above the
cushion and extend about 18" aft of the forward bulkhead.

Roger Kingsland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Connolly"
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?


> Hello,
> I was thinking about fabricating a removable filler between the two main
cabin berths. Was planning on using table brackets mounted on both trim
pieces on the outside of each of the berths, (wooden cleats could also be
installed). A sturdy panel would then be supported on each side by the
table brackets. Main issue is how to store the panel and mattress when not
in use.
> Michael
>
> Gail DeMoss wrote:
> Some A30 owners have inserted a "fill", in the main cabin, across the
> cabin to connect the two seats. The back cushions are then used to make
> the "double bed". Maybe someone who has done this can explain it better.
>
> I am not crazy about the V-berth for sleeping. Too hard to get in and
> out and I am always whacking my head, elbows, knees or sticking a foot
> in Georges back, face, stomach, etc.
>
> Gail Dinwiddie
> Calypso #543
>
>
>
> John Kennedy wrote:
> > My spouse remarked the other day that "I will NOT sleep in a V-berth
again!"
> >
> > Can anyone make some useful suggestions on double-sized sleeping
> > arrangements, preferably of the aft-cabin sort, and the boats that
surround
> > them?
> >
> > Thanks, everyone.
> >
> > John
>
> >
>
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