[Public-list] "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?

[George Dinwiddie]

Michael,

An insert filling the v-berth is a common project.  Our boat came with a 
single-piece 1/2" plywood insert and a single foam cushion.  The cushion 
isn't much of a problem.  We just shove it into a corner of the v-berth 
when it's not being used.  The rigid plywood was more of an impediment, 
and it did more damage when falling out as we heeled too far.

I ended up cutting it into two and can store it under the v-berth 
cushions.  I also put some foam pipe insulation over the edge of the 
v-berth where the wood sticks up between the original cushions and the 
filler.  That helps to soften it.

The only problem left is that the cleats for the filler don't extend all 
the way to the end of the insert.  When it was one piece, the cantilever 
wasn't as noticeable, but now it tends to rock up as you climb in.

  - George


Michael Connolly wrote:
> Roger, I guess that I would rather use a piano hinge so that the
> platform would fold in half for storage.  One could, in addition,
> have a fore and aft section each that would also fold in half.  Thus
> the folding platforms might be only 18" by 36" by 2" thick. One would
> have two of these that could more easily be stored on board.  I was
> imagining this arrangement to be set up only when needed at sleep
> time and then disassembled and put up when underway.  When set up it
> would make it very ackward to get around the main cabin.
> 
> Oh yes, another possibility would be to make two panels of
> appropriate length, that would be supported by cross members in
> either cleats or brackets.  These panels could then be stored under
> the seatee cushions one on each side and the cross members in the
> drawers underneath the seatees?
> 
> The major consideration in my book would be to design the support
> brackets on the inside of the seatee trim to not be dangerious
> protrusions that could cause injury when not in use.
> 
> I am sure that others on this list have worked this arrangement out
> and can comment further.
> 
> Michael
> 
> "Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com> wrote: Michael,
> 
> One thought I had but have not confirmed is doable is to hinge the
> panel at the forward end so it can be placed in a vertical position
> when someone wants to exit the berth. Of course, in that position, it
> would get wider as it gets taller and the question is would it block
> access to the forward ends of the V berths too much.
> 
> I saw a photograph somewhere of the removable cabin table stored
> against the overhead at the forward end of the V berth. This could
> also be a good place to store "the wedge." If I ever install an
> anchor locker hatch at the pointy end, it will be possible to use
> this space (above your feet) for additional shelf or locker space
> which could go down to about 14" above the cushion and extend about
> 18" aft of the forward bulkhead.
> 
> Roger Kingsland
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Connolly" To: "Alberg 30
> Public List -- open to all"
> 
> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Public-list]
> "No V-berth", she says. What's the alternative?
> 
> 
> 
>> Hello, I was thinking about fabricating a removable filler between
>> the two main
> 
> cabin berths. Was planning on using table brackets mounted on both
> trim pieces on the outside of each of the berths, (wooden cleats
> could also be installed). A sturdy panel would then be supported on
> each side by the table brackets. Main issue is how to store the panel
> and mattress when not in use.
> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Gail DeMoss wrote: Some A30 owners have inserted a "fill", in the
>> main cabin, across the cabin to connect the two seats. The back
>> cushions are then used to make the "double bed". Maybe someone who
>> has done this can explain it better.
>> 
>> I am not crazy about the V-berth for sleeping. Too hard to get in
>> and out and I am always whacking my head, elbows, knees or sticking
>> a foot in Georges back, face, stomach, etc.
>> 
>> Gail Dinwiddie Calypso #543
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> John Kennedy wrote:
>> 
>>> My spouse remarked the other day that "I will NOT sleep in a
>>> V-berth
> 
> again!"
> 
>>> Can anyone make some useful suggestions on double-sized sleeping 
>>> arrangements, preferably of the aft-cabin sort, and the boats
>>> that
> 
> surround
> 
>>> them?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, everyone.
>>> 
>>> John
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