[Public-list] Modified galley and v-berth.

Tue Sep 7 06:36:03 PDT 2004

David,

Relative to the Starboard side, I would guess, after install of the new
stove you have about 4+ feet (fore/aft) left of the original bunk.  This is
enough for a good bench seat and backrest (18 to 24") and a decent counter
depth.  Have you considered having the nav station face forward?  That way
you would not have to squeeze into the recess at the forward bulkhead to
sit.  You also would have the bulkhead on which to mount electronic gear
that would be visible from the seat and cockpit (I have been thinking of
putting a stereo with a wireless remote control there).  This arrangement
would also give you access to the area behind the new stove (where your legs
go now).  You could hinge down a full width seat back to access there or
make the back rest narrower to allow direct access.

Relative to the work bench and additional galley counter, it would be
relatively easy design the nav seat so it could be removed and installed
flush with nav counter (perhaps upside down so the seat cushion faces down).
This would result in a continuous counter forward of the stove about 4'
long.  You could store tools under the seat that would be easily accessible
when the seat is raised to form the counter.

I did a mock up of a booth arrangement that can be seen at this link
http://home.att.net/~jinnii/roger/mahina/booth.pdf.  The height of the table
was in line with the bottom of the outboard storage shelf and I used it as a
workbench for several months (because of the epoxy spills, I think it
weighed twice original when I removed it).

To port, "PERFECT intentions" had an ice box with the top in line with the
bridge deck (it's like a small dersser inside).  I have removed the
refrigerator added there and there is gobs of space, particularly if you
incorporate the selves outboard of the fridge box.  The last slide in above
link shows the box with fridge still in.  I will try to get a photo of the
empty box but it is easily 24" deep (fore/aft) and extend about  12" below
the bottom of the fridge door .  It would be feasible to do a mini pantry
closet with "L" shaped shelves aft and outboard and narrow shelves on the
door.  The bottom could hold big, heavy stuff like pots and pans.

Hope this makes sense and perhaps even helps.

Roger

Roger L. Kingsland, AIA
Managing Partner
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Fisher" <liquid_addiction at hotmail.com>
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] Modified galley and v-berth.

> I'm working a frustratingly long way away from my boat at the moment (In
> Canberra while Kalitsah lives in Sydney) and won't be up there for another
> fortnight, so no photos until then, I'm sorry.  Having a nav table on
board
> has proved excellent, but actually ther space isn't used terribly well and
I
> have been considering some more major surgery on the interior.  I have
> considered foregoing the starboard berth all together and replacing what
is
> left now of it with an aft facing nav area. Where the ice box was
> originally, and the nav table is now, I have been trying to design a
decent
> sort of pantry arrangement.  It would be good too to have another work
bench
> there for galley or maintenance work.
>
> I'm having trouble, incidentally, coming up with a satisfactory design for
> this new cabinet.  I want to have it layered with seperate shelves but of
> course want to use all the space available down to the hull.  Does anyone
> have any good ideas about getting the most use out of a space like this?
>
> David,
> Kalitsah 440,
> Sydney.
>
>
>
> >From: "Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
> >Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> >To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Public-list] Modified galley and v-berth.
> >Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 09:45:01 -0400
> >
> >David,
> >
> >Great descrioption, even I understood it after only 3 readings (but I
also
> >would love to see pics).  One question; how do you use the space under
the
> >old ice box (new nav table)?  Is it storage or have you an aft facing
seat
> >with leg room under the nav table?
> >
> >
> >Roger L. Kingsland, AIA
> >Managing Partner
> >Kingsland Scott Bauer Associates (KSBA)
> >N40° 27' 49"  W79° 57' 59"
> >3441 Butler Street
> >Pittsburgh, PA 15201
> >www.ksba.com
> >
> >1(412) 252-1500 X101 - Office & Voice Mail
> >1(412) 779-5101 - Mobile (no voice mail)
> >1(412) 252-1510 - Fax
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Fisher" <liquid_addiction at hotmail.com>
> >To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:55 PM
> >Subject: [Public-list] Modified galley and v-berth.
> >
> >
> > > My Alberg has these modifications.  She was a live aboard for some
years
> > > before I owned her and the former owners put a number of well thought
> >out
> > > additions in.  The stove, which used of course to starboard of the
sink,
> >is
> > > replaced by a Force 10 two burner stove and oven forward, as in that
one
> >for
> > > sale.  In the place of the old stove is a refrigerator box.  Another
> > > refrigerator box is installed in the place of the oilskins hanger.
This
> > > gives good benchspace for the galley.  Opposite, where the old ice box
> >was,
> > > is a nav table.  What is left of the starboard berth has been raised
> >about
> > > 25 cm. to allow for more storage underneath.  The backrest is gone,
with
> > > cushion extending to the liner.  This extra width allows the space
> >behind
> > > the oven to be used to make that berth into a quarter berth style
> > > arrangement.  It is a surprisingly good sea berth, where I can wedge
> >myself
> > > in safely and comfortably.
> > >
> > > In the forepeak, the berth has been filled in so that it forms a
double
> >bed.
> > >   To starboard there is storage, fire extinguisher and soon to be bits
> >of
> > > the collapsible tender I am building.  It works well, I think, however
> >it
> > > leaves the draws under less accessible.  It also fills the interior in
> >more
> > > than would the original set up.
> > >
> > > For weekending and daysailing, the original interior would definately
be
> > > best, but as my home for at least part of the year and when I sail
> >mostly
> > > single handed or with one other, I find my arrangement great.  The
force
> >10
> > > oven and stove alone make the galley a better cooking areas than what
I
> >have
> > > at home.
> > >
> > > David,
> > > Kalitsah 440, Sydney.
> > >
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