[Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank

Tue Sep 7 07:35:59 PDT 2004

Mike,

Could you direct me to some of the info you cite.  I checked with both my NA
and a tank manufacturer I found on the web and they said aluminum was not a
problem.  If I need to go w/ SS so be it, but the material cost about four
times as much as aluminum (so, what else should one expect whaen owning a
boat).

Thanks, Roger

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank

> Roger,
>
> Don't use aluminum for waste holding tanks. There is loads of advice on
the
> web and loads of good reasoning why to avoid aluminum.
>
>
>
>               Mike Lehman
> ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Roger L. Kingsland" <rkingsland101 at ksba.com>
> Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:54:45 -0400
>
> Mike,
>
> I agree with you RE taking measurements.  If intended to go under the aft
> end of the of a V berth, that tank would not come close to fitting in #148
> (1966, no liner).  I am doing custom aluminum tanks and the best I can do
is
> 18" deep and 18" port/starboard (about 27" fore/aft) for a tank that is
> triangular in cross section.  Plus, the shape in plan is a parallelogram,
> not a rectangle.  With a custom tank fitted to the available volume
(except
> curving the tank bottom to conform with the curve of the hull) I will get
> about 18 gallons.  I can't imagine getting more than about 10 to 12 with a
> stock tank.  The stock one I removed held 6 gallons.
>
> Roger
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Lehman" <sail_505 at hotmail.com>
> To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 8:55 AM
> Subject: RE: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
>
>
>  > Maybe they cahnged some things since I did mine - now it looks like the
> 5057
>  > is the right one. I am doing this from memory , but it seems to the the
>  > height was 16" not 19" as shown in the 5022. I will take some more
>  > measurements and let you know. I also, strongly advize that befor
buying
> any
>  > tank , that you make careful measurents of your boat since we have
found
>  > some differences from one boat to another.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >               Mike Lehman
>  > ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: "Chris Lawrence" <chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca>
>  > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
<public-list at alberg30.org>
>  > To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'" <public-list at alberg30.org>
>  > Subject: RE: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
>  > Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 23:41:23 -0400
>  >
>  >
>  > Mike
>  > I looked at the Kracor website and Mold 5022 shown in your drawing is
> listed
>  > as having 17 gallons, not 15. So either Kracor has increased the
capacity
> of
>  > the mold by using thiner materials (the outside dimensions are the same
> as
>  > in your drawing), or you have 2 more gallons of capacity with which to
>  > surmount unforseen circumstances...see link below
>  >
>  >
>  > http://www.kracor.com/support/holdingtanks.pdf
>  >
>  >
>  > Chris Lawrence
>  >
>  > Cirrus #500
>  >
>  > 24 Scarborough Road
>  > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
>  > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
>  > [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Chris Lawrence
>  > Sent: 25 August 2004 18:43
>  > To: 'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'
>  > Subject: [Public-list] RE: Head Holding tank
>  >
>  >
>  > Thanks Mike - this helps a lot - your install looks A1!
>  > The tank I have is in the undersole, and I believe it was factory
> installed.
>  > The previous owner had glassed over the entire surface and subsequently
>  > caulked all around it; however it leaks and is now beyond repair. I
think
> an
>  > install in the forward berth makes more sense, because it is always
> better
>  > to be able to see the bilges and I am thinking I will try and copy what
> you
>  > have done.
>  >
>  > Thanks again and best regards
>  >
>  > Cirrus #500
>  >
>  > Chris Lawrence
>  > 24 Scarborough Road
>  > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
>  > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: public-list-bounces at alberg30.org
>  > [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
>  > Sent: 25 August 2004 11:38
>  > To: public-list at alberg30.org
>  > Subject: RE: [Public-list] where is #277?
>  >
>  >
>  > My boat is hull #505 and I installed a Kracor 14 gallon tank under the
>  > v-berth on the portside, just in front of the bulkhead. Did your boat
> have
> a
>  >
>  > factory installed tank, or is the present tank from a previous owner?
My
>  > boat did not have a tank. To see some pictures of the installation go
to:
>  >
>  > http://alberg30.org/maintenance/disorganized/head/
>  >
>  > Hope this helps.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >                Mike Lehman
>  >  ><((((º>¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: "Chris Lawrence" <chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca>
>  > Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
<public-list at alberg30.org>
>  > To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'" <public-list at alberg30.org>
>  > Subject: RE: [Public-list] where is #277?
>  > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:04:33 -0400
>  >
>  > Has anyone replaced a waste holding tank recently and if so any tips
and
>  > what did you replace with? Thanks
>  >
>  > Cirrus #500
>  >
>  > Chris Lawrence
>  > 24 Scarborough Road
>  > Toronto, Canada M4E 3M5
>  > T: 416-698-5136 F: 416-698-8953 E: chris.lawrence at sympatico.ca
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