[Public-list] Original gatevalve sizes

Jack Vanderloo jvdloo at sympatico.ca
Sun Apr 3 19:38:30 PDT 2005 

Thanks, Stephen, I'd appreciate the follow-up.  I'm in Ottawa, Ontario. 
  Unless there are others who might be interested in this particular 
thread (no pun intended), perhaps we should take it offline as well.
Cheers
Jack

sousa, stephen (ENG) wrote:

> Jack,
> 
> I generally go through the distributor in the states (Jamestown Dist or Rose
> Marine). They must have a distributor in Canada. The prices are competitive
> with similar product.
> 
> If you need a distributor in Canada, I can give them a call in the morning
> and   send you a note their catalog is in my office. Where are you located? 
> 
> Stephen 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Jack Vanderloo
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:50 PM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] Original gatevalve sizes
> 
> Gord,
> 
> I've got the best seat in the house; right outside Bob Green's bedroom 
> window at the Dutch gable end of the building.  Superb security, to say 
> the least!
> 
> Roger on viewing your installation; always glad to learn tips and 
> tricks.  BTW, I definitely do have a direct overboard head discharge 
> fiting (disengaged and frozen solid) - the hose IS rigged to my holding 
> tank.
> 
> Re. surveyors: Burke, out of Barrie, was the only name offered to me so 
> far.  Would gladly defer to your choice in a simultaneous effort, as I 
> have not contacted him yet.  I, too, want to be there for the survey; 
> how does aiming for the 20th/21st fit in with your remaining work?
> 
> Cheers
> Jack
> P.S. Thanks, Stephen, for the heads up on the threads.  Will obviously 
> need to explore this issue much further!  Do Buck Algonquin only quote 
> prices at point of order?
> J.
> 
> Gordon Laco wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello Jack!
>>
>>I must have forgotten that you are so close!  Where in the yard is your
>>boat?  Mine is wintering to the right (coming in from the road) along the
>>cedar hedge.  We have a blue Bayfield 32 beside us - same colour scheme as
>>ours but what a diff! (wide and shallow vs narrow and deep)  We sail in
> 
> the
> 
>>summer out of Midland Bay Sailing Club.
>>
>>Yes, I got the valves from St Amant - nice people.  I will gladly show you
>>what we have done when we can both be there at the same time.  Maybe it
>>would be very advantageous to do two boats - I would prefer to bring
> 
> someone
> 
>>like Dennis Fernis or Robin McKie up than, well, I like to deal with
>>surveyors who I feel know at least as much about the boats and their
> 
> systems
> 
>>as I do.
>>
>>I am going over seas to shoot a documentary Monday but will be back April
>>14.  (this one is about survival techniques in life rafts)
>>
>>We hope to launch two or three weeks after that.  My plan was to do the
>>survey once the through hulls and some wiring work was done.  Let's talk,
> 
> do
> 
>>you mind waiting until after my trip?
>>
>>Gord #426 Surprise
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Gord,
>>>
>>>I'm 'round the corner in Penetang - Dutchman's Cove. No slip; winter
>>>there, then cruise 2-3 months full time.
>>>
>>>Would that commercial plumbing supplier be St. Amant's, by any chance?
>>>
>>>Will be down on April 20/21 to drop off new cushions and other bulky
>>>items before swinging down to Guelph to pick up my daughter from
>>>university.  Back in mid-May for much needed project work (and noted
>>>survey) and launch mid-June.  Superior, to Thunder Bay, is in the plans.
>>>(Tested Whitefish Bay last year.)
>>>
>>>Back on topic, could one mate a bronze thru-hull with a brass ball-valve
>>>with some semblance of expectations of safety/durability?
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>
>>>Gordon Laco wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello Jack -
>>>>
>>>>I am with Eclisiastical and Larry Fraser is my broker.  I was with
> 
> Robertson
> 
>>>>& Robertson years ago  in my wooden boat days but found a better deal
>>>>through a diff broker.
>>>>
>>>>I have not yet settled on a surveyor - I forget where you are.  I am in
>>>>Midland on Georgian Bay.
>>>>
>>>>Gord
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for taking the time to do this, Gord - what with being upside
>>>>>down, in wet snow and all!
>>>>>
>>>>>The irony is that I'm doing the same job for the same reason.  You
>>>>>perchance also with Robertson & Robertson?  Must have mass-mailed the
>>>>>call for updated surveys.  (BTW, am I correct in assuming the survey is
>>>>>yet to be done?  Who are you lining up?  Perhaps we can get a twofer, or
>>>>>some such deal.)
>>>>>
>>>>>Where did you source your ball-valves, thru-hulls, locking rings and/or
>>>>>nipples?  And, were you concerned about the bronze/brass issue?
>>>>>
>>>>>I did some research in the alberg30.org archives and noted that Taylor
>>>>>Echlin (#612) had also gone through the experience recently ... with
>>>>>some interesting observations on the re-use of thru-hulls, backing
>>>>>plates and locking rings.
>>>>>http://www.alberg30.org/pipermail/public-list/2004-June/000531.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Jack
>>>>>Aldabi KC641
>>>>>
>>>>>Gordon Laco wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Jack - 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am in the middle of that job now.  I got a note from my marine
> 
> insurer
> 
>>>>>>that this year I need a survey so decided to bite the bullet and change
>>>>>>over
>>>>>
>>>>>>from gate valves to ball valves.  Fairly horrible miserable job esp the
>>>>>
>>>>>>cockpit drains and the scupper hoses... Besides the little flim flam
> 
> with
> 
>>>>>>the changing diameter, we found that the ball cocks are taller than the
>>>>>>gate
>>>>>>valves.  What that meant was cutting the longitudinal bulkhead to allow
> 
> the
> 
>>>>>>scupper hoses to come in at the right angle.  Then came the ordeal of
>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>to push the hoses onto the new hose barbs while upside down in the
> 
> cockpit
> 
>>>>>>lockers, with wet snow falling on us.. Etc etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But, the job had to be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is what was in my #426:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Engine cooling intake - 1/2"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cockpit drains - 1" through hulls, but 1 1/4" hoses (did you hear
> 
> cursing
> 
>>>>>>coming from the north the day I discovered that?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sink intake - was 3/8", I changed it to 1/2" (that one was one of those
>>>>>>'fake' through hulls Whitby used and I changed it)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sink drain - 1" and I kept to that size
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Head intake - was 3/8" and we went to 1/2"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Head overboard... Being a Great Lakes boat we don't have one of those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers - Gord #426 Suprise
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Has anyone gone through a recent gate-valve to ball-valve/seacock
>>>>>>>conversion, i.e., from the original gate-valves on a liner-vintage A30
>>>>>>>(1977, 1978)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My boat is about 500km/300mi from home, so I'd like to document the
>>>>>>>existing arrangement for planning/costing purposes while the water is
>>>>>>>still hard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Aside from the engine discharge, what are the nominal sizes of the
>>>>>>>following original GATE-valves:
>>>>>>>Cockpit/deck drains
>>>>>>>Engine cooling intake
>>>>>>>Sink intake
>>>>>>>Sink discharge
>>>>>>>Heads intake
>>>>>>>Heads overboard discharge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jack
>>>>>>>Aldabi KC641
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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