[Public-list] PHRF rating

[John Birch]

Ah PHRF, the reason I got out of Club racing - the endless debate on the 
number of angels dancing on the head of a pin.
Your base line must be 216 with a 3 second allowance for the undersized head 
sail. Poor record keeping and small fleets skew PHFR results so dramatically 
as well as the ridiculous notion one rating number will be fairly reflective 
of a boat in different wind/sea conditions.

We all know why PHRF is so popular - it's cheap and not all boaters were 
wise enough to choose an Alberg in the first place ; )

Best of luck with your season Gord and the subsequent discussions at the bar 
over the "fairness of your rating" - been there, out of that ; )

Cheers,
John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] PHRF rating


> Thanks Richard -
>
> The reason I am polling phrf numbers is because we did well again last 
> night
> in the 'wrong' fleet.  Here is the situation.
>
> We were assigned a phrf of 219 sailing with a 140 genny and using the
> 'chute.  Our club breaks the starts into two fleets, A Fleet for boats 
> that
> rate under 192 and B that rates over.  The B fleet is mostly Sharks, a
> healthy one design fleet of 24 foot sloops with fractional rigs. The last
> two seasons we raced in B as our 219 put us right in that fleet.
>
> I often felt self conscious squashing Sharks with our relatively huge wind
> shadow, especially at the starts, because the Sharks are really racing 
> each
> other.  Added to this, there only other boats of our size and vintage (a
> Niagara 30 and a Corvette 31) are in A fleet as their phrf's put them just
> under the 192 line.
>
> This year I requested to be put into A fleet so that we could race against
> the Niagara and the Corvette - both traditional enemies from the glory 
> days
> when they and A30's were common on courses in Canada.  I also did not want
> to be a big course hazard for the Shark fleet which I think deserves its 
> own
> start.  Here is what happened last night.
>
> We finished close to a boat that rates under 160 and ahead of the Niagara 
> 30
> which rates 187.  Now I expect that our rating will be suggested to be too
> high.  I remarked to my crew last night that if we were crafty we would
> throw a couple of races to solidify the high rating then get evil and sail
> to overachieve on the numbers...but I don't like that (but I thought about
> it...)
>
> Gord #426
>
>
>
>> On Lake Ontario our  numbers are 222 white sail and
>> 213 spin. This is with a 170 headsail.
>> Richard
>> --- Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote:
>>> Hi there -
>>>
>>> Can you folks offer me the phrf numbers for A30's
>>> that your clubs use?
>>>
>>> Thanks - Gord #426 Surprise
>>>
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