[Public-list] boat on ebay

Tue Nov 1 10:14:21 PST 2005

Interesting,

That is a similar summary that was shot across my bow a few years ago in a
discussion with a boat broker.

I own a 2nd A30 that is in its beginning stages of rehab.

My opinion is:

I purcahsed Infinity #57 from my aunt back in '97. She Purchased it from
John Wrights Wife in '89 or so and the wright had owner her for some 20
years. In the time she owned her my aunt did very little to maintain the
boat other than the paint and workable engine maintenance. I purchased
Infinity and have worked on practically everything on that boat. Not that
in every case I needed to but that in many instances I had neglected
something or felt it was an important issue to address.

My aunt visited me a few years back and suggested that when she had her
she looked Prettier, now she was more mechanincally sound. After that I
did up the Hull and bright work and now she looks great.

My 2nd boat I purchased, put a bottom on her, put new thru-hulls on and
launched her without a motor and sailed her from the backwaters of middle
river to Kitty Duvall Creek on the south River in Annapolis with 30 year
old sails and it took 18 hours of drifting. She could use everything. Not
much different than what I have right now with Infinity.

The fact is:
I can sail her, I can cruise her with a motor (it helps) and I can work on
her at my leisure. It has been a bit leisurely lately but I am committed
to getting her back to a racing-able condition for next season. I have not
spent more yet than it cost to purchase Infinity. Infact I do not expect
to spend that much.
However I do the work. I do not have contractors do my work, even the
motor is aligned by me. The work gives me quite time, down time, time
working on somthing other than computers. Many people do not have this
priority or ability but many do. This class resource is one of the reasons
for my comfort with working on the boat. Almost everything is documented
here or in the class maintenance manual. I believe the early hulls -
derelict or not are amazing. If you can get your hands on one its better
than a newer hull. The cleaning and maintenance is wrote. Just do it. Then
you have yourself a great sailable boat. BTW: Infinity 1x19 shrouds are
original. I have shortened them to use sta-locks and Norsemen fittings but
otherwise are in excellent shape.

If I were to purchase this boat she would be in the water in 2 weeks and
sailing home. I suggest that anyone who is willing to do the work ... do
it. And keep us posted. Many may be able to help.

-- 
C.B. Currier
Ches. Bay A30 Rear-Commodore Racing

Just Dave said:
>
> Speaking as an outsider; An A30 owner wannabe, I think superb examples of
> the class attract people to the class and grimy messes sort of turn people
> off to a make of boat.
>
> My problem with buying a derelict is that the cost of bringing it up to a
> nice looking boat with functioning systems is more than I can buy a boat
> for
> that doesn't need all the work and investment.  If a boat hasn't been used
> in a while, most of its systems are questionable. That means you are going
> to put hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in an engine, electronics,
> sails, rigging, electronics, galley, etc.  From my novice point of view,
> better to buy one that has everything in running condition.  Yes, there
> are
> those who think their boat is made out of gold, but many owners will
> accept
> a fair price for a decent boat which means I probably pay 50 cents or less
> on the dollar for all those enhancements.  Guys, if your 40 year old boat
> hasn't had anything done to it but break fixes, its probably not going to
> fetch you 20,000.
>
> Dave Kruetzkamp
>
> Get over it!
> You can't look forward if you are still looking back
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Coolray <cooler2k at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] boat on ebay
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 05:10:02 -0800 (PST)
>
> For what it is worth, probably about two cents, the
> association is incredibly valuable and a very
> effective support tool for Alberg owners - all of
> them. To shift our focus toward salvage and
> procurement may only serve a select few. But more
> importantly, it sounds as if we are making the
> assumption that we are the only ones to value this
> boat.
>
> In my opinion, someone will step up. That person will
> probably come to the Association and thus enhance the
> Association through their membership, participation
> and experience. We as a group gain so much more from
> the addition of a boat AND owner. Keep the gene pool
> fresh... mention the boat on ebay to your friends!
>
> John B. Cooler
> Atalaya, #87
>
>
> --- dickdurk at atlanticbb.net wrote:
>
>  >
>  > >I tried to talk up the idea with the Great Lakes
>  > >Association a couple of years ago - to create a
>  > syndicate >to get a fixer upper but, alas, there
>  > didn't seem to be a >ground swell of support for the
>  > idea.
>  >
>  >
>  > Doesn't that sort of go against my interests as an
>  > owner?
>  > I mean, if there is a movement to keep unwanted,
>  > rummage
>  > sale value, beater boats in the market stream, then
>  > the
>  > value of every boat is reduced. Law of supply and
>  > demand,
>  > and all that.
>  >
>  > Speaking for myself, my attachment for Checkmate
>  > goes way
>  > beyond consideration of resale value, but perhaps it
>  > is an
>  > issue that everyone at least needs to be aware of.
>  >
>  > It looks to me, the two sides of the issue are 1.
>  > (or
>  > perhaps yin) keep as many Albergs around as possible
>  > to
>  > have a pool of boats for one design racing status or
>  > 2.
>  > (yang) let natural market forces reduce the number
>  > of
>  > boats to owners who can appreciate a beautiful,
>  > versatile
>  > design and maintain the boat as such.
>  >
>  > I admit it, I'm inclined to elitism :)
>  > Michael Grosh
>  > #220
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