[Public-list] re: "let me race?"was another outboard discussion

Fri Sep 30 06:00:34 PDT 2005

Mike-

Great. Thanks for the effort to clarify the rules. That would be great. 

>From my perspective, it would seem like a reasonable thing to install
equivalent corrector weight which would bring the boat back to the same
displacement as other boats. For example, I could install additional
batteries. 

This is a fairly standard practice in other one-design fleets. For example,
5o5's can be built with modern construction techniques such that they are 20
KG or more underweight (the boat only weighs 128 kg total). That's almost
20% of the total boat weight. This is allowed under the class rules, but
offending boats must install lead corrector weights at specified locations
to compensate for the fact that their boats are lighter. To me, this seems
like a reasonable solution. And generally, I am a fan of allowing people the
freedom to do what they want with their boats, so long as a level playing
field is maintained. 

I plan to be at the rendezvous on Saturday, so we could discuss this issue
there if you want. 

Then again, maybe we should just have a few beers and catch up since I
haven't seen you since the O's game last year! 

Or maybe you can convince me of what kind of diesel I should install... 

;-)

Kind regards,

J

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
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J

I am on the rules committee. There isn't, as far as I know, a hard -and-fast

rule regarding engines specifically. I will call a meeting of the rules 
committee so we can discuss the matter and see if we can come to s a 
resolution and perhaps an amendment to the rules which will cover this 
subject clearly. The membership, at the annual dinner in January, has to 
vote on any bylaw or rules changes.

Mike Lehman
~~~_/)_/)~~_/)~~~

----Original Message Follows----
From: "J Bergquist" <JOHN.R.BERGQUIST at saic.com>
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:52:00 -0400

Michael-

Wait a minute, this is not a fair answer. I am asking the question IN
ADVANCE of making any changes to my boat. I would expect the class
association (or any individual) to return the favor and give me an answer IN
ADVANCE about the class rules rather than wait until AFTER I start racing.

This answer below would be analogous to me walking into the police station
and enquiring about the speed limit. If the response was "well, it's not
actually documented in terms of hard numbers, but don't be surprised if we
slap you with a $150 fine if you go too fast." That would be like what
you're saying below.

I am being open and honest about asking questions about how changing my boat
will affect my ability to race one design. I feel that the reasonable thing
for the association to do would be to give me an answer which will stick
after I start racing. Changing the rules after the game begins is definitely
not sportsmanlike!

I don't think your e-mail below is meant to represent the association.
Nevertheless, I think that it's only fair to expect an advance answer to my
question. Because otherwise, I might find out after I've spent a pile of
money that I can't race my boat. Now that would be a major disappointment!

J

-----Original Message-----
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dickdurk at atlanticbb.net
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:22 PM
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 >What is the wisdom of the "old salts"?

Don't know about that "old salt" business, I say; race
away, but if you start winning, expect protest.

Part Two-Rules And Regulations
   Section 18 Standard equipment shall include all
equipment normally supplied with the standard A-30 as of
Nov. 1. 1964...
and
   Section 4 All hulls shall conform to the design and
specification of the A-30 built by the Whitby Boat Works
and shall remain unchanged so as to preserve the
one-design aspect of the Class....
and
   Section 3 ...The Rules Committee shall have the
   power to declare a boat ineligible.

Was it Mark Twain who said; "Regulations are the refuge of
scoundrels"? :)

Michael Grosh
#220

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