[Public-list] Full Battens

[Dave Terrell]

Generally, I have not found friction to be a big problem - though what
you say about hoisting at the mast is certainly true. I think that is
probably why I upgraded the winch. That worked for me. My  preference is
for lines led back - partly because I single hand. I think if it works,
it is ok. Some questions have right answers; preference questions do not
- kind of like saying whether you prefer broccoli  or Brussel sprouts.
Such a choice!! Hope the remarks at the end do not sound like those of 
smart a...

>>> Sunstone at cogeco.ca 01/12/06 11:41 AM >>>
The problem I found on our A-30 with leading the halyards aft was that
it 
adds so much more friction, even though we used turning blocks and not

fairleads, that when we got our A-37 we left the halyards on the mast
and I 
can haul the much larger full battened sail up by hand without much
effort 
until the last 1-6" where I winch it to get the right tension. When I
used 
to go forward to try to haul our A-30 main up at the mast, instead of
using 
the aft lead halyards - up she'd go to the top no problem.

I think the problem is with aft lead halyards. I don't miss them as I
find 
one always ends up at the mast anyway.

My experience anyhow.

Cheers,
John.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Terrell" <DTERRELL at message.nmc.edu>
To: <public-list at alberg30.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-list] Full Battens


>I have the strong system led aft to the cockpit and share your
> experience. The one thing I did was to upgrade the winch on the
cabin
> top because I found it somewhat difficult to crank the sail up the
last
> foot or so. That may say more about my physical conditioning and
maybe
> age that  it does about anything else, but I thought it might be
useful
> to share this observation.
>
>>>> jay at saildriver.com 01/11/06 8:24 AM >>>
> Bob,
>
>  My experience with my new full batten mainsail on the original sail
> track was poor. The main halyard is led aft through turning blocks
to
> the cockpit, which adds resistance to the system. The full battens
put a
> great deal of forward pressure on the slides in front of them. When
> dropping the mainsail, the combination of forward pressure, and the
> turning of the slides as the sail folds ("accordians"), results in
the
> main jamming on the track. This means I have to go forward and pull
it
> down, which is not acceptable. After installing the Strong system,
the
> problem disappeared. The sail drops like a rock when the halyard is
> released from the cockpit.
>
>  You are fortunate that you don't have the problem. Does your
halyard
> secure to the mast, or is it led aft?
>
>  regards, Jay
>
>
>
> Janet Kirk <isobar at bcpl.net> wrote:
>  At 08:47 AM 1/8/06 -0800, Jay Davenport wrote:
>>[...] The full battened sail was a good move, with no downsides as
> long as
>>you have articulated batten pockets on the sail.
>>
>> The Strong mainsail slide and articulated batten pocket system is
>> outstanding. The sail raises easier from the cockpit, and it drops
> like
>> an elevator when the halyard is released. I find that very
important
> when
>> single-handing.
>
> Jay... As I commented to John Birch, I'm not sure why special batten
> pockets & slides are unique to full batten rigs. Why do full battens
> require special slides? Mine seems to do ok without them.
>
> Bob Kirk
> Isobar #181
>
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