[Public-list] Dealing with leaks

[Lloyd Pulley]

I took the liberty of renaming this thread Dealing with Leaks.


I still have not been able to account for the amount of water that got in
the bilge except for this possible scenario:

The hoses from the Stern area including the two in cockpit are connected on
both port and starboard sides to two hoses which have valves that can be
shut off in the engine compartment which then lead to two seacocks.

The tradeoff is when I left the boat in the water for three weeks unattended
I shut them off because I thought the risk of water coming back up from the
seacocks was greater than water from rain accumulating in the cockpit and
sides.

However, I think if the other seals in the cockpit were not fully tight
water over time may have leaked in to the bilge from here.

But would this have accounted for two inches over the cabin floor and
filling  battery compartment? I don't know.

I do know that there has been no further accumulation of water after I
pumped it out since we had not rain and so I conclude the water could not
have come up into boat but must have been green water.

Anyone check my thinking on this?

Lloyd  #585 



On 9/20/06 2:12 PM, "cathie & john coultis" <zoocrew2 at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> While living aboard Scotch Mist II since August I found more leaks from
> heavy rain (and cleaning the decks) getting in through ports, genny
> tracks/toe rails, chainplates and after reading your comments below, Don I
> now recall seeing cracks along the deck.  Hopefully, it will just be a
> matter of re-bedding/sealing the ports/genny tracks and toe rails
> (chainplates are another issue).  However, what is your suggestion for
> repairing the cracks in the deck and around the area where the forward cabin
> (the "doghouse"- where our 2 golden retrievers have the entire forepeak to
> call their home) meets the deck?
> 
> As many before me have commented...this email network provides a wealth of
> information.  It's a great source for obtaining materials, as well as just
> being a very enjoyable read!
> 
> Cathie
> Scotch Mist II - #448
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don Campbell" <dk.campbell at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-list] A few rookie questions
> 
> 
>> Also look for cracks along the deck,  particularly along the inside edges
> of the
>> toe rails.
>> Don #528
>> 
>> Lloyd Pulley wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks George,
>>> 
>>> Actually the manual bilge pump is fairly new... 2002
>>> 
>>> For some reason it was not appearing to work. I used a hand pump that
> got me
>>> in ok shape and checking daily. Perhaps there is a valve I need to turn
>>> somewhere that  I missed.
>>> 
>>> Rain water was the culprit I am quite sure as it is fresh water not salt
>>> water coming in.  Now tracking down the way it came in now thanks to the
>>> helpful suggestions on this list server.
>>> 
>>> Good possibility on the chainplates... Will check.
>>> 
>>> Lloyd
>>> 
>>> On 9/18/06 11:05 PM, "George Dinwiddie" <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Lloyd Pulley wrote:
>>>>> Recently heavy rains overcame my bilge I suspect and then overcame
> the
>>>>> batteries and flooded the cabin up to an inch.  I had it pumped all
> out and
>>>>> then tried to use the manual bilge but could not seem to get it to
> work...
>>>>> Is the re a valve, a prime needed of sorts to get that thing to work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there anything else I need to worry about since it flooded so
> high?
>>>> 
>>>> 1. You need to make sure that your manual bilge pump works, or fix it
> if
>>>> it does not.  This is a major safety issue.  Most likely you've got a
>>>> Whale Gusher 10.  If so, you can get a rebuild kit for it with all of
>>>> the rubber parts.  You might want to take it apart, first, to make
> sure
>>>> the aluminum casting is OK.  I nursed one along for years, but finally
>>>> replaced it.  It's probably not worth keeping one as long as I did.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. You need to figure out where the water came in.  This is a
>>>> maintenance issue.  Check the chainplates.  If water is coming in
> there,
>>>> you need to recaulk them right away before the knees rot out and you
>>>> lose the rig.  Check the deck fittings, particularly in the cockpit.
> At
>>>> one time I was taking on a lot of water via the rudderpost fitting.
>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently the batteries now are shot and the cables fried.
>>>> 
>>>> Been there.  Done that.
>>>> 
>>>>   - George
>>>> 
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