[Public-List] Permanent mooring for A-30's

[John Birch]

Hi all,

We have considerable experience with concrete anchors for our facilities at 
LaSalle Park Marina Association (LPMA) in Burlington, Ontario (freshwater).

May I suggest the following, get a good relationship with a concrete 
company. Make you anchors out of end of day pours, the concrete companies 
often have to our off unused concrete at the end of day so that it does not 
harden in the trucks. Provide them with 1 - 1.5inch bronze rod bent in a 
hoop with the ends tanged up to hold in the concrete and toss a couple of 
rebars across the sunken tangs to boost holding in the concrete. Sort of an 
inverted U with ears.

Our blocks are 4x2x2 feet in dimensions -weigh 2400lb dry and 1600 -1800 lb 
wet and cost $25.00 each. Then hire a boom truck to bring it down. We use a 
small barge to deploy them ourselves.

Use 1/2in chain to the float with SS wire moused and locktited shackles as 
big as will fit inside the link.  We use Group 40 hot dipped galvanized 
chain. Remember to put the shackle pin through the link, not the other way 
round. The system will last decades.

If this system should fail you the bow would be long gone off your A-30 
beforehand.

Suggestions for your consideration.

All the best

John, LPMA President


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Campbell" <dk.campbell at sympatico.ca>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Permanent mooring for A-30's


> Remember that Hugh is mooring in the sea on the west coast of 
> Newfoundland.
>    There is an additional wear factor with salt and concrete and I am
> not sure if you can obviate the effect by adding salt to the concrete
> mix or if air entrainment would help. If using rebar, then use painted
> rebar.
>    I too would like to hear more of the trip as I am sure I passed
> Hugh's boat tied at the paper company pier at Thorold in the Welland
> Canal in early July. No-one was aboard at the time we went by.
> Don
>
> Gordon Laco wrote:
>> Hello Hugh -
>>
>> I'd love to hear more about your trip some day!
>>
>> Our sailing club in Toronto used concrete pads for permenant moorings; 
>> they
>> had the following dimensions.
>>
>> 4' x 4' x 2'
>>
>> We made them with rebar in a # pattern and with a 6' length of 1/2" hot
>> dipped galv chain shackled on (shackle set so that it was inside the
>> concrete.  A length of 3/8"  chain 2x the water depth went up to the buoy
>> from which two 10'x 5/8" nylon rope pendants went to the boat.  We moored
>> boats up to 40' on these.
>>
>> We noticed that after a few seasons the mooring pads had sunk right into 
>> the
>> bottom - very secure.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>>
>> Gord
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Greetings all,
>>>
>>> My new, old Alberg is now home in Newfoundland after a lengthy voyage 
>>> from
>>> Ontario.  Who knew that Lakes Erie and Ontario could be mirror calm for 
>>> so
>>> long.
>>>
>>> My question is to those on the list that leave their Alberg on a mooring 
>>> as
>>> opposed to tied to a wharf.  I am considering placing a cement block 
>>> with
>>> attached chain as a permanent mooring for my boat and I am wondering 
>>> what
>>> weight of block I should be thinking of making.  Any thoughts and advice
>>> would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
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