[Public-List] Price too High was How old is to old?

[John Birch]

Hey Gord, they are a go anywhere boat - why should you be Surprise-d ; ) 
that one turns up in Chile?!

I hear a rumour that there are some Penguins knocking about in the Antarctic 
with an A-30 and that they may issue a challenge to the Great Lakes and 
Chesapeake Associations to host the next international races off the Ross 
ice shelf for the Shackelton Trophy.

Best wear your warmest woollies.

ATB

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
To: "lhines at chustz.com, Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" 
<public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Price too High was How old is to old?


>I have noticed that in places were A30's are thinner on the ground the 
>price
> seems to go up.  IE a buddy has been casually looking for one in British
> Columbia... Prices were all really high and very few A30's seemed to be
> around.
>
> Your last line reminds me of a scare I had a number of years ago while I 
> was
> with Transat Marine in Barrie.  An A30 owner came by who was in the midst 
> of
> an Atlantic circle tour...had just finished the Azores to Caribbean leg 
> and
> had decided to replace all his old standing rigging before making the next
> shot up the US coast toward home in Canada.  We built his rig and sent him
> away with it.  Naturally I was very interested in his voyage and when he
> left we shook hands and exchanged promised to get together to talk about 
> his
> voyage when he got home.
>
> I didn't hear from him for many months.  Occasionally a horrifying image
> would pop into my mind of him lost at sea due to some rigging failure...
> Phone calls to his numbers went unanswered, etc etc.
>
> Finally, one day out of the blue he phoned me.  It turned out that he 
> never
> made the last leg of his trip.  He was the victim of a terrible hit and 
> run
> car accident in St Martin the night before leaving ... He had been in
> hospital down there then up here for extended periods.  One day he
> remembered me and thought he had better let me know he was alive!  He
> laughed when I told him what I feared had happened.
>
> I wonder how that A30 got to Chile?  I think a lot of A30's, more than we
> know about, go on extended voyages, quietly and without drama.  I am in 
> the
> business of outfitting other people's yachts for big trips...always keep
> dreaming about my own voyage some day... But haven't done one since my
> 'wandering days' when I was a student.  One can spend years 'getting 
> ready'
> but there comes a time when if you are going to go, you should just do it.
>
> And THAT reminds me of a line I read once involving H.W.Tilman.  At the 
> end
> of one of his presentations on his sailing expeditions a young man came up
> to him and asked how one goes about doing things like he does.  Tilman
> responded "just pull your boots on, and walk out the door".  Easy for him 
> to
> say, unmarried and with his military pension.  Most of us are tied to the
> land with a thousand threads that are difficult to cut.
>
> Gord A30 #426
>
>
>> Point taken. I must confess that my initial thought was.... Chile.... 
>> Needed
>> some work.... Negotiate the price down. Perhaps a local Marine Surveyor 
>> could
>> more acurately define "needs some work".
>>
>> Love the forum!!
>>
>> Back to Timbuktu, I remember a youn man saying he was going to Mobile Bay 
>> to
>> purchase her and prepare for blue water sailing. Any word on his project?
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "John Birch" <Sunstone at cogeco.ca>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:41:50
>> To:<cbcurrier at spinrx.com>,"Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Price too High was How old is to old?
>>
>>
>> Look at it this way, if you pay $20K USD for a good boat and some think 
>> it
>> should be less. Consider this, if you keep the boat 20 years, the reality 
>> is
>> you only "overpaid? by some poster's metrics by $3 - $400 per year over 
>> the
>> time period for use of a great boat.
>>
>> All things are relative. The boat should be in good shape and a 1965 will
>> have masonite deck coring which is highly desirable and virtually
>> indestructible. I would suggest those boats, for that feature alone 
>> should,
>> all other things being equal, command a premium price over their balsa 
>> cored
>> sisters.
>>
>> ATB
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "C.B. Currier" <cbcurrier at spinrx.com>
>> To: <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 7:23 AM
>> Subject: [Public-List] Price too High was How old is to old?
>>
>>
>> On the contrary I believe that that is about the right price these days.
>> Having inventoried Yachtworld and others lately. With the value of houses
>> in my neighborhood tripling and then dropping but still more than double
>> in price and now in the past 5 years the price of gas doubling ... I see
>> no reason why 10 years ago an A30 sold for 10,000 should now sell for
>> 20,000. The replacement cost of the boat must be well over 100,000 to
>> rebuild just the hull to the original specs.
>>
>> SO $20,000 sounds very reasonable to me these days.
>>
>> Not that I want to pay that :>
>
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