[Public-List] More on lifting Alberg 30's ~ Solutions

[John Birch]

Straps should always be tied continuously from bow to stern and around the 
straps once the straps have loaded up. This prevents the straps from 
slipping and in a worst case the boat sliding out of the slings.

We have never had a strap slip - but it is good lifting practice, I prefer 
to see 1/2 Dacron used for the tie down.

We use an I beam certified for lifting (NDT inspected and recertified 
annually) and it straddles the hull thwart ships at 90 degrees to fore and 
aft. The I beam is 13 feet wide keeping sheer compression loading to a 
minimum. We use a 2 foot extension on the aft strap and 8 1/2 ton lift grade 
shackles - the extension is a 3/4 Wire Lifting Strap 4' long placed in a 
basket formation on the hook (making it 2' long and the webbing strap 
shackled to the wire strap.

Do not let the strap touch the rudder post, keep it aft of the horn timber

You can resolve your keel problem however by placing several 2 x 4 
thwartships to the keel raising the boat enough to allow strap placement 
under the keel for lift in assuming you have adjustable screw jacks.

We've lifted roughly 5000 boats over 33 years without incident - touch wood 
; )

And we don't screw around with safety - use the proper certified equipment - 
yer dead a long time

Hope this is a help

ATB

John

John Birch, President - LaSalle Park Marina Association




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>
> John,
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>
>
> I have a question for you and others. When I designed my trailer I failed 
> to plan for where the aft lifting strap would fall when the boat was close 
> to being set onto the trailer. I designed the trailer so that when 
> properly loaded the aft foot or so of the keel wound be off the end of the 
> trailer center support, to allow the aft strap to be placed under the aft 
> part of the keel. The issue is that, according to Murphy, I failed to 
> realize that the aft straps interfere with the aft trailer support jacks 
> for the hull of the boat. What I have done up to this point is to lift the 
> boat under the keel and set it on the trailer as far forward as possible. 
> At this point the keel is protruding about 2 feet aft of the trailer, but 
> is firmly on the trailer, which is attached to the tow vehicle. The aft 
> strap is then disconnected and inserted thru the prop aperture and then 
> the boat is only lifted slightly to scoot it forward into the bow stop on 
> the trailer. This makes me a bit nervous until the aft strap can be 
> repositioned, but all has seemed to work fine.
>
> I really don't like lifting the boat from anywhere but under the keel aft 
> and as far aft as possible near the forward cutaway.
>
>
>
> I never considered lifting the Alberg 30 by placing the aft strap under 
> the counter as far forward to the rudder post as possible. I was really 
> fearful that the boat would tear apart.
>
>
>
> I also just lash the fore and aft straps to each other along the gunwale 
> and provide a photograph for the crane
>
> opperator so they know where to position the straps while she is in the 
> water. You cleat the straps to the boat, as you would a spring line to a 
> dock piling? Is that better/safer?
>
>
>
> Thanks for yours and others input on this lifting proceedure. I would like 
> to do what is safest and best for the boat.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Birch" < Sunstone at cogeco.ca >
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" < 
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org >
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:32:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
> Eastern
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Lifting boat by rudder ~ solution
>
> I've been the Facilities Director of our Club for 4 years ending 2 years 
> ago
> and have lifted many an Alberg, my own included. I am ticketed to direct 
> and
> signal the crane.
>
> To avoid this type of error I strongly recommend doing a Counter Lift when
> the boat is in the water, that is placing the aft strap behind the rudder
> and lifting from just behind the horn timber.
>
> When Launching, where we can see the placement clearly, we do the
> traditional Keel lift.
>
> The boat will take it just fine and there is much less chance of error.
>
> Always check the rudder for being free when the straps start to load up 
> and
> stop and lower the boat immediately if either of the following two things
> happen:
>
> 1. the tiller immediately moves to the side as the straps tighten
>
> 2. the tiller feels like it has any drag on it
>
> Always have a person on shore looking under the counter as she starts to
> rise to ensure the strap is behind the horn timber
>
> And don't forget to tie the straps together and fore and aft to a strong
> point like the bow and stern cleats - leading the line along the sheer and
> through the stanchions fairly without point loading anything to avoid 
> strap
> slipping
>
>
> ATB
>
> John
>
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