[Public-List] A30 Team for Eastport/Annapolis Tug'o'war.

Fri Oct 24 10:04:02 PDT 2008

I see some dinghy tug-o-war next summer on the Chesapeake! 

Mike
Rinn Duin #272

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I figured that the fine pitched blades of my 'gull's prop were stalled
and cavitating...so convinced Boyd to let me get moving towing him
before he throttled up. I figured that way my big slow turning prop with
its huge blade area and fine pitch would be at max efficiency.

The result?  He towed me backwards at about 3knts.  I was crushed.

On 10/24/08 12:50 PM, "Meinhold, Michael J."
<MICHAEL.J.MEINHOLD at saic.com>
wrote:

> As the owner of a 2hp Seagull I must throw in an argument.  I would 
> argue that your Seagull prop was properly designed to develop maximum 
> thrust at a forward speed of 4-5 knots. You were doing a bollard-pull 
> comparison!
> 
> Mike
> Rinn Duin #272 (1967 A30)
> Powered by an Atomic 4 built the same year.
> With 2HP British Seagull built the same year..
> Let me know if someone comes across a 1967 dinghy.
> (My wife was born in 1966 but I will keep her anyway)
> 
> 
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> Laco
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> 
> I can't come to your event, Andrew, but the invitation reminds me of a

> bad memory.
> 
> I worked for Tom Taylor Co in Toronto for many years after I graduated

> from school (those Canadians on the list who are my age will remember 
> the department store sized chandlary down town)  I still dream 
> sometimes about what that old building was like when I would come in
to open up.
> 
> Among the gear we handled was the distributorship for British Seagull 
> outboards.  I loved them and had one myself on TOUCH WOOD, my old 
> Folkboat.
> I used to tell everyone that they were the greatest, and I sold a lot 
> of them.
> 
> One day my soon-to-be wife and I were sailing back from a weekend in 
> Niagara in TW, in company with friends in their Shark class sloop.  We

> were becalmed so both fired up the aux outboards.  My 'Gull was 
> vibrating and hammering away, smoking like crazy on the heavy oil mix 
> as usual, but as I said, I loved it.
> 
> Boyd decided to challenge me to a tug of war in the glassy calm.
> 
> We quickly rigged up a line - I was confident of victory.  My Seagull 
> was rated at 170 pounds of thrust, had the extra long shaft and the 
> five-bladed 11" diameter high torque prop.  Boyd's boat had a buzzy 
> 6hp Johnson with a tiny high pitch prop...both engines about the same 
> displacement.  We knew his boat had a higher top speed but I loyally 
> attributed that to the Seagull's superior design, which produced 
> fantastic torque at low speeds - like a farm tractor, I used to say.
> 
> Well, he towed us backwards with a foaming 'bow' wave at our stern.  
> He took
> pictures which he still occasionally emails to me.   Over the roar of
> our
> engines I could hear him triumphantly shouting "Ha Ha, you bastartd!
> All those poor people you lied to, all those poor people!"
> 
> Gord #426
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/23/08 9:23 PM, "Meinhold, Michael J."
> <MICHAEL.J.MEINHOLD at saic.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I am in! 
>> 
>> Mike
>> Rinn Duin #272
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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L.
>> Cole
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>> Cc: 'Robert Martensson'; 'Eric Schwartz'; tlochner at boatinglaw.com; 
>> 'Marc Stanley'; 'Staller, Phillip B'; 'William Lagman'; 'Lawton, 
>> Ike';
> 
>> 'Andrew Stephenson'
>> Subject: [Public-List] A30 Team for Eastport/Annapolis Tug'o'war.
>> 
>> One of my crew is involved with the annual Tug'o'war across Spa Creek

>> and has asked if we could put together an A30 team to compete this
> year.
>> He's trying to get the Cal 25 group to put up a team to oppose us 
>> (the
> 
>> fools).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We can have as many as 33 people on the team, the entry fee is $20.00

>> per person, and my understanding is that the proceeds all go to 
>> charity (I will have to check which one).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Tug is on Saturday November 8, registration opens at 11, and the 
>> tugs will take place between 12 and 1.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'll have coffee and donuts at our house for the team before 
>> registration (everyone can park on our street and walk over to 
>> registration after we're sufficiently caffeinated and sugared up).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you're interested, send me a note and I'll start compiling a list.
>> Don't forget to pass this on to your crews as well.
>> 
>> Andrew L. Cole, Esq.
>> Franklin & Prokopik
>> The B & O Building
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>> Baltimore, MD 21201
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