[Public-List] Mast Heads for the Alberg

Fri Feb 20 07:48:21 PST 2009

Gord,

The barky came with that rudder and with a 7 degree +/- twist in the shaft
(to steer straight, one needs to hold the tiller about 7 degrees to port of
centerline; good thing my left arm is longer than my right).  My seller is
the step son of the long time owner from CT and tells me 148 was washed up
on the rocks during a storm.  Might explain the twist and perhaps the rudder
was extended when repaired.  I think I will call him and try to find out
more.

I was hoping to make the drive from Pittsburgh for your seminar (and to see
my daughter who goes to American University) but the boss has us going to
some boring cocktail party tomorrow night.  Maybe next time.

Best,

Roger

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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Mast Heads for the Alberg

Hi there - 

When I first saw the rudder with the angular trailing edge I assumed it was
a Douglas 32 blade put onto an A30...Roger - did you make it yourself?

Looking forward to seeing you folks tomorrow!

Gord
#426

On 2/20/09 10:16 AM, "J Bergquist" <jbergqui at gmail.com> wrote:

> Roger-
> 
> You show up for a race and we'll resolve it then.
> 
> Meantime, it is always helpful to have a sharp jigsaw blade.
> 
> J
> 
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Roger L. Kingsland 
> <r.kingsland at ksba.com> wrote:
>> Speaking of class rules, I am the proud owner of the rudder (and good 
>> old #148, the boat to which it is attached) shown in the last picture 
>> of this section of the A30 web site; 
>> http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/Steering/RudderVarieties/.
>> 
>> Of course with a rudder like this, one only needs to think about 
>> tacking and, presto, you are sitting on the opposite rail yelling 
>> "starboard" to anyone who will listen.  Since it seems a tad larger 
>> than other A30 rudders, I wonder if it might disqualify me from 
>> racing.  The argument I am developing for my hearing before the rules 
>> committee is the reduced speed resulting from the added wetted 
>> surface area is more detrimental than being able to do roll tacks 
>> like a Laser.  Think it will fly or should I put a new blade in the gig
saw?
>> 
>> Roger 148
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of J 
>> Bergquist
>> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:16 PM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all; Alberg 30 Racing
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Mast Heads for the Alberg
>> 
>> Michael-
>> 
>> It is not up to you to decide what is allowed by the class rules and 
>> what is not. The class rules are written and documented. The decision 
>> of whether or not to allow equipment modifications is left to the 
>> rules committee by the class rules. The class rules are published in 
>> the association handbook and it is clearly stated that spars and 
>> standing rigging and spars are not to be modified from original 
>> equipment provided on specified dates in the rules EXCEPT in cases 
>> where the rules committee has made an exception. Please read the rules if
you need a refresher.
>> 
>> I am not saying that you are wrong. What I AM saying is that it is 
>> not up to you to decide. Please do not presume to know the rules any 
>> better than the rest of us. Andrew raised a legitimate question that 
>> it is possible such a change of masthead would be not allowed by the 
>> rules. It's up to the rules committee to decide whether or not such a 
>> change would be allowed. But no one among us (neither you nor I) is 
>> allowed by the class rules to make such a judgment on his or her own.
>> 
>> Clearly there are already some boats which are or recently have been 
>> actively racing which use internal halyards and/or non-original mast 
>> head fittings. I would propose that allowing this change would be 
>> advantageous to racing in our class for these reasons:
>> 
>> 1. It is not an extreme expense. In my opinion, it does not 
>> materially increase the cost of the boat.
>> 
>> 2. The advantage incurred, if any, is small (reduced windage from 
>> internal halyards).
>> 
>> 3. As the boats age, it is not reasonable for us to expect people to 
>> continue to use the 1965 hardware forever. Surely some will be able 
>> to get more use out of that equipment, but probably not everybody can 
>> do so. People need to be able to replace worn out parts with equivalent
new equipment.
>> 
>> Because I am obviously an interested party in this discussion, and I 
>> am a member of the rules committee, I have recused myself from a vote 
>> on this issue and asked our commodore (Mike Meinhold) to appoint a 
>> suitable replacement.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> J Bergquist
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Michael <dickdurk at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>> running internal halyards will take the boat out of class, although 
>>> I suppose that only matters if 1. it races 2. it beats someone.
>>> 
>>> MichaelGrosh
>>> #220
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