[Public-List] Mast Heads for the Alberg

[Gordon Laco]

Hi there - 

When I first saw the rudder with the angular trailing edge I assumed it was
a Douglas 32 blade put onto an A30...Roger - did you make it yourself?

Looking forward to seeing you folks tomorrow!

Gord
#426




On 2/20/09 10:16 AM, "J Bergquist" <jbergqui at gmail.com> wrote:

> Roger-
> 
> You show up for a race and we'll resolve it then.
> 
> Meantime, it is always helpful to have a sharp jigsaw blade.
> 
> J
> 
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Roger L. Kingsland
> <r.kingsland at ksba.com> wrote:
>> Speaking of class rules, I am the proud owner of the rudder (and good old
>> #148, the boat to which it is attached) shown in the last picture of this
>> section of the A30 web site;
>> http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/Steering/RudderVarieties/.
>> 
>> Of course with a rudder like this, one only needs to think about tacking
>> and, presto, you are sitting on the opposite rail yelling "starboard" to
>> anyone who will listen.  Since it seems a tad larger than other A30 rudders,
>> I wonder if it might disqualify me from racing.  The argument I am
>> developing for my hearing before the rules committee is the reduced speed
>> resulting from the added wetted surface area is more detrimental than being
>> able to do roll tacks like a Laser.  Think it will fly or should I put a new
>> blade in the gig saw?
>> 
>> Roger 148
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of J Bergquist
>> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:16 PM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all; Alberg 30 Racing
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Mast Heads for the Alberg
>> 
>> Michael-
>> 
>> It is not up to you to decide what is allowed by the class rules and what is
>> not. The class rules are written and documented. The decision of whether or
>> not to allow equipment modifications is left to the rules committee by the
>> class rules. The class rules are published in the association handbook and
>> it is clearly stated that spars and standing rigging and spars are not to be
>> modified from original equipment provided on specified dates in the rules
>> EXCEPT in cases where the rules committee has made an exception. Please read
>> the rules if you need a refresher.
>> 
>> I am not saying that you are wrong. What I AM saying is that it is not up to
>> you to decide. Please do not presume to know the rules any better than the
>> rest of us. Andrew raised a legitimate question that it is possible such a
>> change of masthead would be not allowed by the rules. It's up to the rules
>> committee to decide whether or not such a change would be allowed. But no
>> one among us (neither you nor I) is allowed by the class rules to make such
>> a judgment on his or her own.
>> 
>> Clearly there are already some boats which are or recently have been
>> actively racing which use internal halyards and/or non-original mast head
>> fittings. I would propose that allowing this change would be advantageous to
>> racing in our class for these reasons:
>> 
>> 1. It is not an extreme expense. In my opinion, it does not materially
>> increase the cost of the boat.
>> 
>> 2. The advantage incurred, if any, is small (reduced windage from internal
>> halyards).
>> 
>> 3. As the boats age, it is not reasonable for us to expect people to
>> continue to use the 1965 hardware forever. Surely some will be able to get
>> more use out of that equipment, but probably not everybody can do so. People
>> need to be able to replace worn out parts with equivalent new equipment.
>> 
>> Because I am obviously an interested party in this discussion, and I am a
>> member of the rules committee, I have recused myself from a vote on this
>> issue and asked our commodore (Mike Meinhold) to appoint a suitable
>> replacement.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> J Bergquist
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Michael <dickdurk at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>>> running internal halyards will take the boat out of class, although I
>>> suppose that only matters if 1. it races 2. it beats someone.
>>> 
>>> MichaelGrosh
>>> #220
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