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[dan walker]

i think u need to check with gordon laco. my be3t is a canadian nuke sub. came south to grab some cherries

--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Dave Terrell <Dterrell at message.nmc.edu> wrote:

> From: Dave Terrell <Dterrell at message.nmc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] (no subject)
> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 10:26 AM
> Thanks to all who responded
>  
> I sail in West Grand Traverse Bay in northwestern
> Michigan.Grand Traverse Bay is about 30 miles long and is
> divided into east and west bay by an 18 mile long peninsula.
> Both bays are fairly narrow. I think I was between a 
> half mile and a  mile from shore.  Since the end
> of August the mid west  has been the beneficary of a
> stable large high. That day there was hardly any wind. I
> have no reason to think the lake and the bay were having
> much different conditions. I could check the weather history
> and confirm that observation. These waves came from east to
> west. To the extent that there was any wave train that day,
> it would typically be from the northeast.
>  
> A soliton looks like looks like a good possibility. What I
> could see from the boat looked a lot like the soliton in the
> strait of Gibralter image. The one difference is that that
> the Gibralter soliton appeared to be curved while the wave
> pattern I saw was straighter. It held together going all the
> way across the bay. 
>  
> I am interested in any other approaches to understanding
> this event that may be out there.
>  
> David
> 
> >>> Hugh McCormack <hugh_alberg at hotmail.com>
> 09/19/09 8:58 AM >>> 
> 
> Hello Dave, 
> 
> 
> 
> I am intrigued by your experience and was looking at Google
> Maps for some ideas. I have some questions that might help
> solve the mystery. From the info you have already given I
> think it is safe to say that the local 2-4 knots of wind
> were not the cause. 
> 
> 
> 
> Where abouts on the bay were you when you experienced these
> waves? Was Lake Michigan as calm as the bay? Also what was
> the approximate distance between wave crests? From which
> direction did the wave train come? 
> 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> 
> 
> Hugh 
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:35:01 -0400 
> > From: Dterrell at message.nmc.edu
> 
> > To: public-list at alberg30.org
> 
> > Subject: [Public-List] (no subject) 
> > 
> > Earlier this summer while I was sailing Grand Traverse
> Bay in winds of 2 to 4 kts apparent with calm flat water and
> no power boats in the area, there suddenly appeared about
> about ten wave crests - one was a breaking wave - I thiink
> some of them might have been two feet high. The water around
> these waves was flat like all the rest of the water on the
> bay. When they passed - having bumped me around pretty well
> - the sea remained flat and the winds remained at the same
> speeds for most of the rest of the afternoon. The wave
> crests went all the way across the bay. I saw an other sail
> boat get knocked around as I was. The whole event lasted
> about two minutes - maybe a little more or less. 
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