[Public-List] Sailing technique

dan walker dsailormon at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 20 10:56:02 PDT 2010


george, 
gail was not on board before the knockdown, or after? just to clarify. i think i am now supposed to type--lol
dan 

--- On Tue, 7/20/10, George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org> wrote:

> From: George Dinwiddie <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 1:28 PM
> Calypso took a knock-down in June
> with a bunch of ~10 year old junior 
> sailors on board.  They thought it was quite
> exciting.  The only 
> casualty was a pair of sandals that floated out of the
> cockpit and 
> didn't float.
> 
> Gail wasn't aboard.
> 
>   - George
> 
> On 7/19/10 4:15 PM, Jonathan Budington wrote:
> > We've been sailing the boat with our kids this summer,
> so I've been
> > reefing early and keeping the boat as flat as
> possible.  Sunday was odd,
> > as the wind was light during most of the day.  I
> would never have that
> > much sail out with kids on the boat if I though it
> would blow 24.  My
> > wife did not enjoy that part of the ride (although I
> thought it was very
> > exciting).
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
> > [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org]
> On Behalf Of Gail DeMoss
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:10 PM
> > To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> > Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
> >
> > If you want to keep your mate happy and on-board, keep
> the boat
> > upright.  The Alberg sails better, faster and
> more comfortably on her
> > feet.  J's are light and tippy and they need to
> heel to get speed.
> > Leaving a winch wake is NOT good.
> >
> > Gail
> > "Calypso"  # 543
> >
> > On 7/19/10 4:01 PM, Kris Coward wrote:
> >> But when your angle of heel gets bigger, that
> stops being the case
> > (for
> >> the rudder, at least). I've had the questionable
> fortune to have been
> >> steering the boat vertically down in the past
> (thank god they're
> > buoyant
> >> enough that I was no more effective in this
> direction than I was at
> >> bearing off until I could get the main loose).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kris
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:35:44PM -0400, Jonathan
> Budington wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes - heading down meant sailing off the wind
> to about 60 degrees
> > from
> >>> 45.  The boat felt like it wanted to
> round up quickly, so pushing it
> >>> down hard helped flatten it out.  I did
> let the main out, and the
> > boat
> >>> came up quickly.  I was just curious if
> there was a good reason to
> > leave
> >>> the main alone - I wasn't about to test the
> theory with my family
> >>> aboard.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
> >>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org]
> On Behalf Of Kris
> > Coward
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:16 PM
> >>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> >>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Once you get enough heel, trying to steer down
> stops meaning
> > "downwind".
> >>> Whether by sheet or halyard (I prefer sheet
> since it's easier to undo
> >>> once out of the gust), you've got to let the
> main loose if you want
> > to
> >>> regain control of the boat. Ignore the J-30
> captain.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Kris
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 02:20:33PM -0400,
> Jonathan Budington wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I was sailing in the Bay yesterday
> afternoon - nice breeze of about
> > 12
> >>>> knots.  We were heading south towards
> Annapolis when I noticed the
> >>>>
> >>> boat
> >>>
> >>>> ahead of us was knocked down.  Before
> I could reduce sail (no reef
> > and
> >>>> the full genoa out), we were hit by a 24
> knot gust.  The boat healed
> >>>>
> >>> (as
> >>>
> >>>> it usually does), and wanted to head
> up.  I pulled hard on the
> > tiller
> >>>> and headed down until the gust
> subsided.  My wife lost her drink
> > (and
> >>>> composure), and my 5 kids were yelling "do
> that again".  I think we
> >>>> reached a heal angle of 32 degrees - the
> leeward rail was well under
> >>>> water.  My questions are:
> >>>>     
> >>>> How far can an Alberg heel over before
> steering is lost?
> >>>>
> >>>> Is heading down the right course of
> action? (I was told to leave the
> >>>> sheets alone by a J-30 captain - just head
> off hard).
> >>>>
> >>>> Jon Budington
> >>>> Nimble
> >>>>
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