[Public-List] Sailing technique

Meinhold, Michael J. MICHAEL.J.MEINHOLD at saic.com
Tue Jul 20 13:43:12 PDT 2010


My advice - select, trim and reef your sails to the boat, the
conditions, and the crew!
My daughter Rachel once responded to a near-knockdown with a questioning
"Dad???" 

My first mate Patricia has a more vociferous response to a steady 25
degree heel. 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Kris Coward
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique


Just to let everyone know; you don't have to be a kid to be exhilerated
by a (near) knockdown. Tracey and I were taking a couple of friends
across the lake to St. Catharines last summer, and they thought it
tremendously exciting in spite of being 30-ish. Our casualties were an
old handheld GPS and our (emergency) spare front nav lights, which
floated away. (Tracey, Xana, and I weren't quite so thrilled.)

Cheers,
Kris

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 01:28:17PM -0400, George Dinwiddie wrote:
> Calypso took a knock-down in June with a bunch of ~10 year old junior 
> sailors on board.  They thought it was quite exciting.  The only 
> casualty was a pair of sandals that floated out of the cockpit and 
> didn't float.
>
> Gail wasn't aboard.
>
>  - George
>
> On 7/19/10 4:15 PM, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>> We've been sailing the boat with our kids this summer, so I've been 
>> reefing early and keeping the boat as flat as possible.  Sunday was 
>> odd, as the wind was light during most of the day.  I would never 
>> have that much sail out with kids on the boat if I though it would 
>> blow 24.  My wife did not enjoy that part of the ride (although I 
>> thought it was very exciting).
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gail 
>> DeMoss
>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 4:10 PM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>>
>> If you want to keep your mate happy and on-board, keep the boat 
>> upright.  The Alberg sails better, faster and more comfortably on her

>> feet.  J's are light and tippy and they need to heel to get speed.
>> Leaving a winch wake is NOT good.
>>
>> Gail
>> "Calypso"  # 543
>>
>> On 7/19/10 4:01 PM, Kris Coward wrote:
>>> But when your angle of heel gets bigger, that stops being the case
>> (for
>>> the rudder, at least). I've had the questionable fortune to have 
>>> been steering the boat vertically down in the past (thank god 
>>> they're
>> buoyant
>>> enough that I was no more effective in this direction than I was at 
>>> bearing off until I could get the main loose).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kris
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:35:44PM -0400, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes - heading down meant sailing off the wind to about 60 degrees
>> from
>>>> 45.  The boat felt like it wanted to round up quickly, so pushing 
>>>> it down hard helped flatten it out.  I did let the main out, and 
>>>> the
>> boat
>>>> came up quickly.  I was just curious if there was a good reason to
>> leave
>>>> the main alone - I wasn't about to test the theory with my family 
>>>> aboard.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>>>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Kris
>> Coward
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:16 PM
>>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Once you get enough heel, trying to steer down stops meaning
>> "downwind".
>>>> Whether by sheet or halyard (I prefer sheet since it's easier to 
>>>> undo once out of the gust), you've got to let the main loose if you

>>>> want
>> to
>>>> regain control of the boat. Ignore the J-30 captain.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kris
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 02:20:33PM -0400, Jonathan Budington wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was sailing in the Bay yesterday afternoon - nice breeze of 
>>>>> about
>> 12
>>>>> knots.  We were heading south towards Annapolis when I noticed the
>>>>>
>>>> boat
>>>>
>>>>> ahead of us was knocked down.  Before I could reduce sail (no reef
>> and
>>>>> the full genoa out), we were hit by a 24 knot gust.  The boat 
>>>>> healed
>>>>>
>>>> (as
>>>>
>>>>> it usually does), and wanted to head up.  I pulled hard on the
>> tiller
>>>>> and headed down until the gust subsided.  My wife lost her drink
>> (and
>>>>> composure), and my 5 kids were yelling "do that again".  I think 
>>>>> we reached a heal angle of 32 degrees - the leeward rail was well 
>>>>> under water.  My questions are:
>>>>> 	
>>>>> How far can an Alberg heel over before steering is lost?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is heading down the right course of action? (I was told to leave 
>>>>> the sheets alone by a J-30 captain - just head off hard).
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon Budington
>>>>> Nimble
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