[Public-List] Sailing technique

Laughing Gull laughing_gull at verizon.net
Wed Jul 21 08:43:08 PDT 2010


Mike really needs to tell us why he was sailing in 35 knots with spin up.

Mike???? There is more to this story!

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On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:09 AM, "John Birch" <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Call it 'spider dipping' Lehman style ; )
> 
> Best
> 
> John (those Vikings know a thing or too ; )
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
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> 
> What a great way to slosh the spiders out of the rig - I'll try it some
> time.
> 
> :) Gord
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/07/10 11:03 AM, "Jonathan Budington" <jon at globalprinting.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well that's good to know - I guess I had a bunch of room to go.  Great story.
>> My wife would have left me for that.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 7:20 AM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jon,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> in answer to your question...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "How far can an Alberg heel over before steering is lost?How far can an Alberg
>> heel over before steering is lost?"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The only time I have lost steering in the Alberg due to heel angle, was while
>> reaching with a spinnaker in 35 knots. As the boat speed built, the boat began
>> to heel excessively, until the boat reached a speed of little over 10 knots.
>> The angle became so severe that the rudder came out at about the same time the
>> spreaders dipped into the water and the boat broached. Water was pouring over
>> the coamings and the cockpit was full (we had the companionway hatches in
>> place and locks on the seat lockers). When the boat righted, it took off like
>> a shot, until we reached 10 knots again and, once again broached. The crew was
>> screaming "what should we do!!!!" I yelled back "Hang on!!!" Finally we were
>> able to get it under control and get the chute down, but not until we broached
>> 4 times in a half mile. Dipping the spreaders is what I would consider pushing
>> the boat to the limit and it where you lose steerage.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Lehman
>> 
>> 
>>> <((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><((((º>
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>>> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:20:33 -0400
>>> From: jon at globalprinting.com
>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>> Subject: [Public-List] Sailing technique
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was sailing in the Bay yesterday afternoon - nice breeze of about 12
>>> knots. We were heading south towards Annapolis when I noticed the boat
>>> ahead of us was knocked down. Before I could reduce sail (no reef and
>>> the full genoa out), we were hit by a 24 knot gust. The boat healed (as
>>> it usually does), and wanted to head up. I pulled hard on the tiller
>>> and headed down until the gust subsided. My wife lost her drink (and
>>> composure), and my 5 kids were yelling "do that again". I think we
>>> reached a heal angle of 32 degrees - the leeward rail was well under
>>> water. My questions are:
>>> 
>>> How far can an Alberg heel over before steering is lost?
>>> 
>>> Is heading down the right course of action? (I was told to leave the
>>> sheets alone by a J-30 captain - just head off hard).
>>> 
>>> Jon Budington
>>> Nimble
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