[Public-List] stoves

John Birch Sunstone at cogeco.ca
Fri Mar 12 06:52:30 PST 2010 

Absolutely agree with George

Out first week with Sunstone back in 92 the whole stove top caught fire due 
to a leaky valve o ring.

This wasn't one of your standard alcohol fires with a low blue almost 
invisible flame - the flames were about 6 inches to a foot. A wet towel 
solved the problem in about 10 seconds.

Letting a fire extinguisher off would have meant a month of cleaning.

As long as you keep yer cool in those types of situations they usually work 
out well.

Often it helps to run various crisis scenarios through your head and figure 
out what the solution is well in advance. Good exercise on those sleepless 
nights. Even with all those bad sectors in the hard drive on top of my 
shoulders, its amazing how fast recollection of a solution can be.

Yea, I know, I need to get out more ; )

Best

John





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Dinwiddie" <gdinwiddie at alberg30.org>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] stoves


> WRT putting out alcohol fires with water: better practice that.  Just 
> pouring water often results in burning alcohol floating on 
> water--spreading the fire.  Better to use a wet towel and smother it. 
> (This tip came from my marine insurance agent.)
>
> We use the butane cannister stove.  It would be a little expensive for a 
> liveaboard, but isn't bad for casual use.  You can get the fuel at 
> oriental grocers much cheaper than at boat stores.  (The AllGreen Market 
> near us has them 4 for $5.)  Store them abovedecks, as the fuel is heavier 
> than air.
>
>  - George
>
> C.B. Currier wrote:
>> I grew up on Alcohol - it takes forever to boil water - I mean like 1/2
>> hour. Though it is safe and you can put out fires with water. You must
>> regularly maintain the rubber parts as they deteriorate with the
>> alcohol.
>>
>> Much better I believe is the Origo - lighter fluid type. The challenge
>> is finding the fuel. I can get it at True Value or Ace hardware usually
>> or last resort - West Marine. But on an A30 you can get hot coffee in a
>> few minutes instead of hours. And it stores easily and safely.
>>
>> I cannot believe that lighter fluid is Illegal in Canada as a fuel for
>> these stoves. They are quite easy an safe to use... oh well. C.B. Currier
>> Infinity #57
>>
>> On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 09:11 -0500, Meinhold, Michael J. wrote:
>>> I like alcohol for the following reasons
>>>   safe storage and use-  evaporates readily into a lighter-than-air gas
>>>   multi-use - fuel, charcoal starter, antiseptic, solvent (sadly
>>> denatured removing another use)
>>>   quirky - takes skill and practice to use properly (still developing
>>> myself)
>>>   readily available - any hardware store, home store, marine store
>>>   Mike
>>> Rinn Duin #272
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> mahseer at kos.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 6:20 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] stoves
>>>
>>> I have used the pressurized alcohol, a butane, a non pressurized
>>> alcohol, and  portable propane.  I stopped using the butane because of
>>> the cost of fuel, limited burn time and in Canada it is not legal to use
>>> as the only source for cooking.  My pressurized alcohol was difficult to
>>> start and keep burning plus it disintergrated.  The propane portable as
>>> a cook top again is not legal and the gas is heavier that air.
>>> Currently I am using the non pressurized alcohol installed cook top that
>>> works well burns for a long time, cheap fuel but does not have the BTU's
>>> that other types have. I would not recomend the pressurized alcohol
>>>
>>> John Boor
>>> MAHSEER #380
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> In the past I have used an Origo 3000, but someone snitched it.
>>>> Has anyone ever used or recommend a pressurerized alcohol stove? I have 
>>>> been offered a three burner, oven one.
>>>> Alternatives are the Origo 3000 with an oven , a propane stove or even
>>>> a butane one.
>>>>
>>>> Opiniions?
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