[Public-List] Stoves.. and a note about propane

[John Birch]

Hi Cathy,

Diesel stoves are el stinky - suggest if you go the diesel stove route you 
use Canadian Tire clear lamp oil which is heavily paraffin based. Since 
converting our kerosene lamps to that fuel, there is not smell to speak of. 
One problem with diesel stoves is you still have to preheat the burner with 
alcohol or methyl hydrate in the warming pan.

I trust you are using proper pressure alcohol fuel now in your pressurized 
stove and not the cheap stuff, because the cheap stuff has lots of 
impurities and methyl hydrate which burns your eyes from the vapour.

When we got Sunstone, the previous owner had the tank filled with the cheap 
stuff, once I figured that out converting to proper pressure alcohol made 
all the difference. The formaldehyde gasses really hit my eyes particularly 
hard from the cheap stuff.

Still takes the length of a bible to boil water for pasta, but at least I 
can now share in cooking as opposed to climbing to the masthead for clear 
air ; )

The cats like it better too  >'.'<   >'o'<

Best

John

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cathie & John Coultis" <zoocrew at eastlink.ca>
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stoves.. and a note about propane


> Hello All,
>
> I've been following the "stove" issue with great interest as Scotch Mist 
> II still has the original alcohol stove which we do not like, and are 
> looking at alternatives.  Since we have repowered with a diesel engine 
> (Universal 3 cyl), has anyone contemplated using a diesel stove/heater? 
> Just came across an ad in Good Old Boat mag for Wallas Safeflame 85 DP/DU.
>
> Cheers,
> Cathie #448
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gordon Laco" <mainstay at csolve.net>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" 
> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Stoves.. and a note about propane
>
>
>> Hi Dennis -
>>
>> I have written to Coleman to see what they say about use of their stoves 
>> in
>> boats; I will share their response.
>>
>> Cheers - Gord #426 Surprise
>>
>>
>> On 14/03/10 10:17 AM, "Dennis K. Biby" <sailor at aweigh.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How does a propane Coleman stove on deck differ from the propane BBQ 
>>> grill
>>> on the rail?
>>>
>>> If they leak, either one under the proper wind conditions can send 
>>> propane
>>> to the bilge where it can mix with the gasoline from a leaky A-4.
>>>
>>> Having used pressurized alcohol stoves, propane stoves, and Coleman 
>>> stoves
>>> plus solid-fuel and electric heating stoves over many, many years of 
>>> living
>>> aboard, it seems to me that life is prolonged by understanding the risks 
>>> and
>>> taking the proper precautions and that life is enjoyed by not 
>>> over-playing
>>> the what-ifs.
>>>
>>> Just my 2-barnacles,
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>> s/v Ferrity
>>>
>>> Visit MolokaiReef.com to learn more about my mystery novel:  Molokai 
>>> Reef -
>>> Gybe Sails Hawaii.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sorry to suggest that the presence of a Coleman stove in a yacht 
>>>> is
>>>> another thing that would invalidate insurance if there were a fire. 
>>>> They
>>>> are intended to be used only ashore where fuel vapour (highly explosive 
>>>> in
>>>> the case of that fuel) would safely dissipate away.  In a yacht, even 
>>>> up on
>>>> deck, the chances of it accumulating in the bilge or low in the cockpit 
>>>> are
>>>> great.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to be offering bad news.
>>>>
>>>> Gord #426 SURPRISE
>>>>
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