[Public-List] White smoke

Fri May 7 18:39:36 PDT 2010

Hi Gord,
Worst case the atomic 4's are very simple to work on. If you rebuilt your
B's 1800 then an A-4 will be a straight forward project. They're only one
step above working on the lawnmower. In a worst case scenario you could hock
out the engine and rebuild it on you kitchen table over a week end provided
the bottom end is sound and you don't have to split the bottom end casing to
replace seals  and get into crankcase alignment/ shims etc.
Peter 
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
Sent: May 7, 2010 8:25 PM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] White smoke

Thanks friends,

I am went over to the boat to check her lines, there is a blow forecast to
come through here tonight and I didn't want to worry about her.

I ran the engine and found that when the revs are high & the engine is in
neutral, I get the 'smoke'.  When the normal operating revs (about 1200)
there is hardly any at all.  I let it warm up.

I noticed that there seems to be an oily residue in the cooling water coming
out.  Yes Peter, it is an open system and the engine is an Atomic IV.  I
also noticed a faint black staining around the edge of the head gasket
seam...

Now if my problem is the head gasket, I can replace that without taking the
engine out of the boat.  Worn rings, which I guess are to be expected in an
engine forty years old, would be more hellish to deal with.  I tore my MG
engine down and put it back together a number of years ago.  I know some
people like that sort of work but I was extremely relieved when it was over.
Maybe that's the pleasure?

Gord

On 07/05/10 8:07 PM, "Peter Milley" <milleype at kingston.net> wrote:

> Hi Gord,
> Marvel Mystery oil used to be carried by CTC but I believe they
discontinued
> it. Check you local store just in case. I bought up the entire stock three
> years ago when CTC discontinued it in Kingston. Check out their web site.
> I've used it for everything from seized outboards to a diesel supplement
in
> my Ford Tractor. It's been around for a dog's age. I even add it to my gas
> in my truck, MGB's and Harley as a top end lubricant.
> Peter
> p.s
>  Sounds like you've got water with the white smoke you describe. White
smoke
> water, dark-blue to black smoke oil! It should have cleared it' self after
> the A4 got to temperature for a period and steamed off.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Sousa
> Sent: May 7, 2010 7:55 PM
> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] White smoke
> 
> 
> Gord,
> 
>  
> 
> In the States we have it at any autoparts stores or places such as Walmart
> etc. I am not sure if they export the product.
> 
>  
> 
> Stephen
>  
>> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 18:27:42 -0400
>> From: mainstay at csolve.net
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] White smoke
>> 
>> Thanks Steven,
>> 
>> Do you know where I could obtain that stuff?
>> 
>> Gord
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/05/10 6:07 PM, "Stephen Sousa" <alberg114 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Gord,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I laid up the Alberg Yanmar I would put Mystery Oil in the intake.
> I have
>>> found that this method hinders the rings from sticking and will also
> clear
>>> carbon from the rings.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also I enjoyed our discussion this morning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Let us know how this situation works out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Stephen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 17:08:38 -0400
>>>> From: mainstay at csolve.net
>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>> Subject: [Public-List] White smoke
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Gang - 
>>>> 
>>>> Well I got SURPRISE in the water this afternoon. All went well but for
> one
>>>> thing. Our loyal A4 engine fired right up ... And smoked a fair bit as
>>>> usual due to the fogging oil from layup burning away... But the smoke
> didn¹t
>>>> stop. At idle there is not much but if I rev her up there is a fair bit
> of
>>>> smoke.
>>>> 
>>>> I am quite worried about shot rings or a gasket... Anybody have less
>>>> expensive ills to put under this symptom? I have heard of rings
> sticking...
>>>> Hopefully that may be my problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Gord #426 SURPRISE
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