[Public-List] White smoke

Peter Milley milleype at kingston.net
Fri May 7 20:56:50 PDT 2010 

If you believe the problem to be the head gasket bypassing cooling water
then try retorting the head before you go to that trouble first.

-----Original Message-----
From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
Sent: May 7, 2010 10:52 PM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] White smoke

I think so to Peter - and it looks to me that I can relatively easily to the
head gasket job with the engine in position.

The engine runs smooth as silk other than the white smoke issue.  I'll order
a head gasket on  Monday.

Cheers - Gord




On 07/05/10 9:39 PM, "Peter Milley" <milleype at kingston.net> wrote:

> Hi Gord,
> Worst case the atomic 4's are very simple to work on. If you rebuilt your
> B's 1800 then an A-4 will be a straight forward project. They're only one
> step above working on the lawnmower. In a worst case scenario you could
hock
> out the engine and rebuild it on you kitchen table over a week end
provided
> the bottom end is sound and you don't have to split the bottom end casing
to
> replace seals  and get into crankcase alignment/ shims etc.
> Peter 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Laco
> Sent: May 7, 2010 8:25 PM
> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] White smoke
> 
> Thanks friends,
> 
> I am went over to the boat to check her lines, there is a blow forecast to
> come through here tonight and I didn't want to worry about her.
> 
> I ran the engine and found that when the revs are high & the engine is in
> neutral, I get the 'smoke'.  When the normal operating revs (about 1200)
> there is hardly any at all.  I let it warm up.
> 
> I noticed that there seems to be an oily residue in the cooling water
coming
> out.  Yes Peter, it is an open system and the engine is an Atomic IV.  I
> also noticed a faint black staining around the edge of the head gasket
> seam...
> 
> Now if my problem is the head gasket, I can replace that without taking
the
> engine out of the boat.  Worn rings, which I guess are to be expected in
an
> engine forty years old, would be more hellish to deal with.  I tore my MG
> engine down and put it back together a number of years ago.  I know some
> people like that sort of work but I was extremely relieved when it was
over.
> Maybe that's the pleasure?
> 
> Gord
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/05/10 8:07 PM, "Peter Milley" <milleype at kingston.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gord,
>> Marvel Mystery oil used to be carried by CTC but I believe they
> discontinued
>> it. Check you local store just in case. I bought up the entire stock
three
>> years ago when CTC discontinued it in Kingston. Check out their web site.
>> I've used it for everything from seized outboards to a diesel supplement
> in
>> my Ford Tractor. It's been around for a dog's age. I even add it to my
gas
>> in my truck, MGB's and Harley as a top end lubricant.
>> Peter
>> p.s
>>  Sounds like you've got water with the white smoke you describe. White
> smoke
>> water, dark-blue to black smoke oil! It should have cleared it' self
after
>> the A4 got to temperature for a period and steamed off.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Stephen
Sousa
>> Sent: May 7, 2010 7:55 PM
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] White smoke
>> 
>> 
>> Gord,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In the States we have it at any autoparts stores or places such as
Walmart
>> etc. I am not sure if they export the product.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Stephen
>>  
>>> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 18:27:42 -0400
>>> From: mainstay at csolve.net
>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] White smoke
>>> 
>>> Thanks Steven,
>>> 
>>> Do you know where I could obtain that stuff?
>>> 
>>> Gord
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/05/10 6:07 PM, "Stephen Sousa" <alberg114 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Gord,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> When I laid up the Alberg Yanmar I would put Mystery Oil in the intake.
>> I have
>>>> found that this method hinders the rings from sticking and will also
>> clear
>>>> carbon from the rings.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Also I enjoyed our discussion this morning.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Let us know how this situation works out.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 17:08:38 -0400
>>>>> From: mainstay at csolve.net
>>>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>>>> Subject: [Public-List] White smoke
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Gang - 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well I got SURPRISE in the water this afternoon. All went well but for
>> one
>>>>> thing. Our loyal A4 engine fired right up ... And smoked a fair bit as
>>>>> usual due to the fogging oil from layup burning away... But the smoke
>> didn¹t
>>>>> stop. At idle there is not much but if I rev her up there is a fair
bit
>> of
>>>>> smoke.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am quite worried about shot rings or a gasket... Anybody have less
>>>>> expensive ills to put under this symptom? I have heard of rings
>> sticking...
>>>>> Hopefully that may be my problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gord #426 SURPRISE
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