[Public-List] tiller vs wheel

Fri Sep 10 14:41:53 PDT 2010

My first boat was an Islander 29 - tiller, after that I had a hughes 31 with a wheel, there were a lot of things I did not like about the hughes, the wheel was a big one, glad to be back to a tiller.

Paul Cheney
paulcheney at me.com
www.360mm.ca

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>   1. Nicro Fico travelers (Gordon Laco)
>   2. WNR series 3 Race 4 recap (J Bergquist)
>   3. tiller vs wheel (Joseph Balderson)
>   4. Re: tiller vs wheel (John Birch)
>   5. Re: tiller vs wheel (Gordon Laco)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:13:33 -0400
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
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> Hello  - 
> 
> Has anyone got a Nicro Fico traveler car that is surplus?
> 
> Gord #426 Surprise
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> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:27:01 -0400
> From: J Bergquist <jbergqui at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Public-List] WNR series 3 Race 4 recap
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> I wrote a report on the last race of AYC WNR series 3:
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> http://racing.alberg30.org/2010/09/wnr-series-3-race-4-recap-calliope.html
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> It's a bit long, but I hope you will indulge my writing habit by reading
> it...
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> I am not going to be able to make Oxford or Queenstown personally because of
> school commitments. However, the boat will be there without me.
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> I do plan on doing the Rankin regatta and look forward to seeing you all
> there.
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> Kind regards,
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> J Bergquist
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:41:03 -0400
> From: Joseph Balderson <joebinc at gmail.com>
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> Has anyone successfully changed to wheel steering? What type did you use?
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:07:10 -0400
> From: "John Birch" <Sunstone at cogeco.ca>
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> Don't
> 
> Our A30 had one and I never knew the pleasure of steering a stick A 30 until 
> after I sold her. Had I known, I would have tossed the wheel overboard. A 
> wheel is unnecessary on an A 30. Our A 37 has one and it is quite necessary.
> 
> Just my 2 cents
> 
> Best
> 
> John
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>> Has anyone successfully changed to wheel steering? What type did you use?
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:36:59 -0400
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
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> Hi Joseph - 
> 
> I have grown to like our factory installed wheel... But it took some getting
> used to.  I wouldn't have chosen it if I had had the choice.  I think a
> tiller is superior in most aspects but one; when motoring one feels much the
> gentleman yachtsman sitting behind a wheel....
> 
> SURPRISE is fitted with Edson cable steering, generally inferior to the old
> Whitlock (a classic story there of a fine marine product line gobbled up by
> a giant Lewmar, then destroyed by poor service).
> 
> The cable steering gives reasonable feedback to the helmsman's hand - like I
> said, I have become used to the wheel despite having it being added to the
> list of things I used to pound the table, spilling people's beer while
> swearing I'd never have them (non-wooden hull, standing headroom, inboard
> engine, roller headsail furling, all once signs of weakness and disloyalty
> to the old way...  My wife would chant in response 'dry bunks, no pumping,
> dry bunks, dry bunks, dry bunks...)
> 
> We once had a cable bolt on the quadrant break; I got the emergency tiller
> on in seconds and was delighted to find that the wheel forward position
> allows a nearly full length emerg tiller - I was able to steer quite
> merrily.
> 
> If I were installing the wheel again, I would put it about 18" further aft
> from where the factory put it... Which is approx even with the forward sheet
> winch position.   I know the intention was to put the helmsman in about the
> same place in the cockpit as when at the end of the stick in order to keep
> his weight out of the aft end... But the practical outcome is a very crowded
> forward end of the cockpit.   Ergonomically it is not great.  Someday I may
> move it aft about level with the engine shift control where it should have
> been to open elbow room for the sheet tenders.
> 
> Gord #426 SURPRISE
> 
> 
> On 10/09/10 8:07 AM, "John Birch" <Sunstone at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Don't
>> 
>> Our A30 had one and I never knew the pleasure of steering a stick A 30 until
>> after I sold her. Had I known, I would have tossed the wheel overboard. A
>> wheel is unnecessary on an A 30. Our A 37 has one and it is quite necessary.
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> John
>> 
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