[Public-List] Hand rails/Leaks in the Hull Deck Joint

[Gordon Laco]

Hi Bob - 

Hand rails are on the cabin top .... I think the job you are describing
below is for toe rails along the shear of the boat.  I have to do that job
too.   The hand rails are a different kettle of fish - much simpler!

Cheers - Gord





On 21/09/10 1:50 PM, "Bob Crinion" <bob at crinion.ca> wrote:

> Regarding Leaks in the Hull Deck Joint:
> 
> On our boat, hull 560, the teak hand rails were fastened with about 160
> self tap SS screws with the wooden plugs. I removed the plugs with a
> screw that I cut off the top so I could insert it in a drill; it made
> removal of the plugs a one night after work job to get the plugs out.
> Getting the screws out took 3 evenings, too bad they used slotted
> screws, but I will fix that when I put the toe rails back on...
> 
> I found several reasons for leaks after removing the teak toe rail/hand
> rails. Corroded leaky rivets and areas where the hull deck joint
> loosened and needed to be recaulked (3M 5200).All the rivets were
> drilled out and filled every hole with epoxy thickened with Colloidal
> Silica. I found the old holes too burred up from the rivets. I used
> 10-24 SS screws just as in the very useful A30 article:
> http://www.alberg30.org/maintenance/HullDeck/NewerHullDeckJoint/
> 
> I drilled new holes in between the old ones and countersunk them and
> added a small dab of 5200 around the screw head before the screw was
> fully tightened using nylon lock nuts. (I WAS REALLY PEAVED OFF ABOUT
> LEAKS IN THE HULL DECK JOINT!) Talk about a TEDIOUS PROCESS!
> 
> I hope after refastening the teak toe rail/hand rail with a polysulfide
> sealant that there will be NO MORE LEAKS in the hull deck joint...
> 
> I took lots of pictures from start to finish including building a 14'
> wide by 17' tall by 34' long bow roofed shed.
> 
> Now to paint the deck...
> 
> -bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message-----
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> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Richard J
> Hughes
> Sent: September 17, 2010 10:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Hand rails
> 
> Would like to get some advise on removing, sealing and replacing the
> hand 
> rails on # 438.  Stb side leaks like a sieve!
> They have wooden plugs hiding the hardware and I can't tell if they are
> screwed into each other (interior deck head to exterior coach roof) or
> not. 
> But I hate to drill out 12 wooden plugs each side if not necessary.
> However, 
> the leaks have to stop, especially with the rainy B.C season arriving
> soon.
> Thanks all comments will be appreciated.
>  
> 
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