[Public-List] radical ideas

Roger L. Kingsland r.kingsland at ksba.com
Fri Apr 1 08:49:19 PDT 2011


Albergers,

I hate to dwell on radical ideas (again) but..... I have a side elevation
picture of GO148 with a trap on the deck that happens to be positioned so
one could visualize how the boat would look with just the aft, higher cabin
and a flush deck forward.  It looks like one of those flush deck 50 footers
with a pilot house; really cool.

If I could ever retire, I'd have half a mind (read; half wit) to find a
salvage A30, flush out the deck at the lower cabin top, put a bendy mast in
line with the forward main cabin bulkhead and sell it to a nice family of
midgets.

Roger 148       

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 11:12 AM
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Mike

You would need to remove the deck, then the engine, all of the bulkheads, 
then all of the other furniture items, then the main beam...basically you 
would have to get down to bare empty hull and then you could start 
rebuilding the boat with all new bulkheads, engine mounts etc. etc. A person

would have to insane to attempt this...but then there was the boat that was 
in my driveway for 3 years...it was close to bare hull (and an overwhelming 
job to put her back together)

-----Original Message----- 
From: Meinhold, Michael J.
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 2:59 PM
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Has anyone taken the liner off to make it a liner a  non-liner?

-----Original Message-----
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Kingsland
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:28 PM
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I don't to start and liner/non liner wars but, after 8 years of page
lurking, I am happy to have a non liner boat; because what you see is what
you get.

Roger

-----Original Message-----
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It does so reasonable...I thought of that too, my are fiberglass since I
have a liner boat...I was trying to figure out how to get the strap out
through the second hole since you cannot reach under the compartment.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Roger L. Kingsland
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:06 PM
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Mike,

Since boxes look to be the safest way to go, I thought I would cut notches
in the plywood compartment bottoms and run the straps under the plywood and
around the box.  Sound reasonable?

Roger






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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 11:51 AM
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This is a good way to secure batteries...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId
=442499&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=10109&subdeptNum=10
548&classNum=10551

It is cheap and way better than straps. I have one of these on my power boat

and it take a real beating...just ask George!

-----Original Message----- 
From: Roger L. Kingsland
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:46 PM
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Thanks Mike,

I have made teak brackets to hold the bases and will also have straps.
Without boxes, I can fit both in the middle locker (perhaps leaving the aft
one for beer). I plan to put some of that plastic flooring (Sport Court)
under the batteries so the plywood base stays dry.

Did you have any surprises with your survey?

Roger

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:35 PM
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Roger,

I just had my boat surveyed this morning. My batteries are Group 27 wet cell

batteries. The are not in battery boxes, but they are strapped down
securely. The surveyor told me that because of the location, under the floor

boards, they are protected as if they were in a battery box, therefore they
did not need to be in a battery box, but must be secured. Hope this helps.
BTW, 2 group 27 battery boxes will not fit under the cabin sole of the A30.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Roger L. Kingsland
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:58 PM
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Subject: [Public-List] battery boxes

Hi Folks,



I have a West Marine (fully sealed) starting battery and an Optima Blue Top
(sealed) gel house battery.  Both have small oval holes on the top for
ventilation.  Does anyone know if regulatory agencies require they be in
battery boxes or do I just have to insure they are securely fastened?  Does
ventilating them to the outside make a difference?



Thanks, Roger 148



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