[Public-List] atomic 4 grey goo

mr smith jungsters3 at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 28 15:55:58 PDT 2011


thanx for the reply, i will be checking the water pump asap & croosing my fingers...any suggestions for removing the contaminated oil...mike

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Today's Topics:

   1. bolt at mast top (Debra Fontaine)
   2. Re: swim ladder (Debra Fontaine)
   3. atomic 4 (mr smith)
   4. Re: atomic 4 (Mike Lehman)
   5. Re: bolt at mast top (crufone at comcast.net)
   6. mast weight (dan walker)
   7. Re: mast weight (Mike Lehman)
   8. Re: atomic 4 (moiraeiii at aol.com)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:19:33 -0700
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I am using a wire to rope halyard. rope was too fat to fit through space between sheave and plate covering sheave. So I just had a new halyard made.


Debra Fontaine

~250-923-1953~


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> Does anybody know the size of the bolt that holds the plate across the top of the mast to prevent the halyard from jumping. I need to buy one before I climb up. Anyone have trouble with halyard jumping? How did you fix it? Debra on La Paloma
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> Debra,
> 
> The bolt that holds the sheave as well as the side plates is 1/2 inch. 
> It also holds the side stays. So I do not believe this would be your 
> problem.
> 
> There are also two small plates (one in front and one behind) which 
> might be what has come loose. These are held in place with 4 small sheet 
> metal screws each and are  located above the sheave. You are probably 
> going to need to make an exploratory trip up the mast.
> 
> It sounds like you may have a worn sheave.
> 
> Are you running a wire or rope halyard?
> 
> -tom s
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> On 7/26/2011 5:14 PM, Debra Fontaine wrote:
> > Does anybody know the size of the bolt that holds the plate across the top of the mast to prevent the halyard from jumping. I need to buy one before I climb up. Anyone have trouble with halyard jumping? How did you fix it? Debra on La Paloma
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:33:51 -0700
From: Debra Fontaine <debrafontaine at live.com>
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Could you please send me photos of your swim ladder also. Debra on La Paloma thanks



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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:13:32 -0700 (PDT)
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hello, 
looks like i'm pulling my motor as i'm getting water mixing with the oil...almost certain it's not from the head as i had it planed & fluxed for cracks & used 2 head gaskets...so, since there's no oil burning?with the exhaust?it has to be internal...i first noticed it(grayish oily goo) leaking from the front oil pan crank seal...checking the dip stick & oil fill revealed the same stuff...since the oil also lubes the tranny, how long can i leave it in the engine/trans before it does more harm&can i still save the motor?...any suggestions for getting?the goo?out...i'm thinking engine flush/oil change but i will have to run the motor again without water...any suggestions will be greatly appreciated...thanx...mike

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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:50:20 -0400
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Mike

This is not a good sign. If it is a cracked block you are done with that 
engine as no more blocks are available. You Should drain the engine oil 
completely as soon as possible, fill if with fresh oil and see if the new 
oil becomes water contaminated. If the new oil gets water in it you will 
need to find the source. Possible place to start is the water pump. If the 
seals (or shaft) are bad in the water pump it could be exchanging water and 
oil.

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hello,
looks like i'm pulling my motor as i'm getting water mixing with the 
oil...almost certain it's not from the head as i had it planed & fluxed for 
cracks & used 2 head gaskets...so, since there's no oil burning with the 
exhaust it has to be internal...i first noticed it(grayish oily goo) leaking 
from the front oil pan crank seal...checking the dip stick & oil fill 
revealed the same stuff...since the oil also lubes the tranny, how long can 
i leave it in the engine/trans before it does more harm&can i still save the 
motor?...any suggestions for getting the goo out...i'm thinking engine 
flush/oil change but i will have to run the motor again without water...any 
suggestions will be greatly appreciated...thanx...mike
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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:19:37 +0000 (UTC)
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Debra, 

On a rope to wire halyard the wire should be long enough so that it never reaches the sheave when lowering the sail. The rope part is the messenger line to hoist the wire. On my mast there are two cheek plates to prevent jumping held on by small sheet metal screws. The pivot bolt does not come into play to prevent jumping of the halyard. 

Michael 



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I am using a wire to rope halyard. rope was too fat to fit through space between sheave and plate covering sheave. So I just had a new halyard made. 
? 

Debra Fontaine 

~250-923-1953~ 


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> Does anybody know the size of the bolt that holds the plate across the top of the mast to prevent the halyard from jumping. I need to buy one before I climb up. Anyone have trouble with halyard jumping? How did you fix it? Debra on La Paloma 
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> Debra, 
> 
> The bolt that holds the sheave as well as the side plates is 1/2 inch. 
> It also holds the side stays. So I do not believe this would be your 
> problem. 
> 
> There are also two small plates (one in front and one behind) which 
> might be what has come loose. These are held in place with 4 small sheet 
> metal screws each and are ?located above the sheave. You are probably 
> going to need to make an exploratory trip up the mast. 
> 
> It sounds like you may have a worn sheave. 
> 
> Are you running a wire or rope halyard? 
> 
> -tom s 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/26/2011 5:14 PM, Debra Fontaine wrote: 
> > Does anybody know the size of the bolt that holds the plate across the top of the mast to prevent the halyard from jumping. I need to buy one before I climb up. Anyone have trouble with halyard jumping? How did you fix it? Debra on La Paloma 
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does any one know the approximate weight of the alberg 30 mast?
thanks
dan


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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:56:11 -0400
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Hi Dan

I always use the 250-300 range with the rigging attached

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does any one know the approximate weight of the alberg 30 mast?
thanks
dan
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I thought this might help. http://moyermarine.com/ Consider our new block assembly to give your engine a new heart! 
Randy





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Mike

This is not a good sign. If it is a cracked block you are done with that 
engine as no more blocks are available. You Should drain the engine oil 
completely as soon as possible, fill if with fresh oil and see if the new 
oil becomes water contaminated. If the new oil gets water in it you will 
need to find the source. Possible place to start is the water pump. If the 
seals (or shaft) are bad in the water pump it could be exchanging water and 
oil.

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From: mr smith
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:13 AM
To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Subject: [Public-List] atomic 4

hello,
looks like i'm pulling my motor as i'm getting water mixing with the 
oil...almost certain it's not from the head as i had it planed & fluxed for 
cracks & used 2 head gaskets...so, since there's no oil burning with the 
exhaust it has to be internal...i first noticed it(grayish oily goo) leaking 
from the front oil pan crank seal...checking the dip stick & oil fill 
revealed the same stuff...since the oil also lubes the tranny, how long can 
i leave it in the engine/trans before it does more harm&can i still save the 
motor?...any suggestions for getting the goo out...i'm thinking engine 
flush/oil change but i will have to run the motor again without water...any 
suggestions will be greatly appreciated...thanx...mike
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