[Public-List] Fire and liners.

Wed Jul 13 13:45:54 PDT 2011

Well, I have a non liner boat...... and, over the last 8 years have acquired
a lot of sanding experience.  Best technique is to move one's arm back and
forth between sips of beer; lot's of elbow (grease) and not too much wrist
(save that for rotating the beer can).  BTW, using power sanders is
cheating.

Best, Roger 148

PS - I am in Istanbul on business and had a chance to sail a Jeaneau 29 on
the Bosphorus this afternoon.  Beautiful day; 12-15 knots with calm water
except for the wakes of ferries, freighters, navy ships, Turkish Coast Guard
vessels, fishing boats, barges, rubber duckies; whatever floats seems to be
plying the waters of the Bosphorus day and night.   

Original Message-----
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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [Public-List] Fire and liners.

Stephen,

I think you will find the liner to be about 1/4" think and much thicker in 
other places where they add structural support, such as around the bulkheads

and engine mounts. The liner does provide secondary structural support to 
the boat, but as a headliner not so much. There are many places where it is 
not bonded to the underside of the deck. I think you are fine with sanding, 
and from the look of the pictures, I do not think it would take very much, I

could be wrong. Sanding seems like your only option.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stephen Gwyn
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 2:26 PM
To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
Subject: [Public-List] Fire and liners.

Hi,

Halotron is only poisonous if it gets really hot.
On a kitchen fire it would be fine. Halon is illegal
in Canada except for the military. I had my old Halon
fire extinguisher confiscated, much to my annoyance.

But going back to the flakes in the liner. Has anybody
seen this before? The liner is not painted, these are flakes
in the fibreglass.

On a related note, what's the deal with these liners anyway?

How thick are they?

How well bonded to the hull and deck are they? In some place
the seem to be completely bonded, in others, no so much.

Do they add any strength to the boat? Put it another way,
how much can I remove without compromising the structural
integrity?

Stephen
#495 Quasar

Incidentally, I do *not* want a discussion of the relative
merits of liner vs. non-liner boats. It's been done.

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