[Public-List] Spinnaker pole topping lift location

Wed Jun 15 07:18:47 PDT 2011

I just use a block with a line attached that I cleat to one of the bow 
cleats. I lead my spinnaker downhaul through the block with one end attached 
to the bridle on the pole and the other end back to the cockpit. That way I 
have nothing permanent attached to the boat and can stow the whole thing 
when not in use.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Gordon Laco
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 10:07 AM
To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Spinnaker pole topping lift location

A better way to rig the spin pole downhaul on boats our size is to lead it
to a block at the foot of the mast.  That way you don't have to adjust it
every time the pole's guy is adjusted... And you don't have to touch it when
gybing.

Think of the pole downhaul as doing the same job as the boom vang...but for
a different spar.

G

On 15/06/11 9:53 AM, "Roger L. Kingsland" <r.kingsland at ksba.com> wrote:

> PS - Has anyone tried attaching preventers just aft of the baby stays (to
> something strong) rather than to the bow fitting?  Seems this would; hold
> the boom out, flatten the sail and keep it off the spreaders.
>
> Roger 148 -----Original Message-----
> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Roger L.
> Kingsland
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:45 AM
> To: 'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Spinnaker pole topping lift location
>
> Glenn,
>
> Your third paragraph exemplifies why it would a shame to ever "leave the
> list."  I am definitely going to look into a sound proof bag for my large
> spinnaker.
>
> Best,
>
> Roger 148
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> brooks.glenn at comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:08 PM
> To: Bill Wallace; Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Spinnaker pole topping lift location
>
> Hi Bill,
> My topping lift is installed at the spreaders and works fine to control 
> the
> whisker pole, which I also use ( more often) to boom out the
> jyb/genoa/drifter. I havent ever needed a down haul on the pole, and don't
> have a spinnaker sock. but the sock seems like a good idea. There isn't 
> much
> load to speak of on the topping lift, so mounting a block below the
> spreaders works well. This year I am going to install a stout block at the
> forestay fitting at the bow and run a long outhaul each side to boom out 
> the
> main when off the wind. Humphrey Barton rigged his Vertue XXXV this way on
> his first transatlantic crossing and spoke highly of the ease of 
> controlling
> the boom when flying a spinnaker short handed. Other early cruisers wrote
> about this method, so will give it a try in a few weeks. Might be a
> worthwhile addition for down wind sailing.
>
>
> I've got a couple of blocks mounted each side of the aft taff rail, and 
> run
> the spinnaker sheets through and back to the main winches. This seems to 
> set
> a proper sheet angle.
>
>
> I also sail mostly single handed. Against my better judgement I carry a
> large and small spinnaker on board. H ave never had an idyllic day's 
> sailing
> when flying the Damn things. Mostly I fly one to big for the wind when it 
> is
> really sunny and I get lulled by the siren's song and use really terrible
> judgement about what could possibly go wrong on such a nice day.
> (Rationally, I figure I should only fly it in less than 10 knots or so, 
> but
> always manage to put one of em up in more than that...) Aah but they are
> cursed with the mermaid's song, and call out so sweetly on downwind runs! 
> so
> if you do put one on board, never, ever gaze into the sail locker when it
> calls, or you will surely be snared into frantic hours of set up time and
> lost, lost I say in wild desperation soon as you haul the windward sheet -
> no matter how softly the apparent wind! I'd get rid of mine in a heart 
> beat,
> but worry endlessly that I might eventually find a useful reason one day 
> to
> have em on board... hah
>  a, Fair Winds and great sailing!! :>
>
>
> Glenn B.
> S/V Dolce #318
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Wallace" <wayfarer3134 at yahoo.com>
> To: "alberg 30" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 6:19:13 PM
> Subject: [Public-List] Spinnaker pole topping lift location
>
> I have most of the bits now for a spinnaker, but there isn't a topping 
> lift
> for the spinnaker - there is a spinnaker halyard installed and ready, but
> not the lift. Does one usually install a topping lift from the top of the
> mast or from part-way up, and if part-way up, is the mast strong enough 
> for
> the load? The down-haul I understand gets mounted just over the anchor
> loncher back wall so that it has something strong to attach to.
>
> The sheets run back to the turning blocks on the rail - I probably need to
> add another set as the original jib blocks are too far forward and I'm 
> using
> the spinnaker blocks for the jib-sheets. I will have to choose between the
> spinnaker and the jib as I only have the one set of winches, and I don't
> expect I can manage the spinnaker without winches.
>
> The only other thing I think I still need is a spinnaker sock - I will be
> flying it single handed most of the time and dousing it without a sock 
> seems
> just about impossible.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill.
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