[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2102, Issue 1

Gordon Laco mainstay at csolve.net
Thu Jun 23 12:43:57 PDT 2011


Hi 

I hope what's got you in the hospital gets dealt with, and that you're sailing again soon. 

I've worked this show every year since '99 which means we've likely met!

G

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On Jun 23, 2011, at 3:22 PM, wcwinslow at aol.com wrote:

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> 
> So, I?m at Toronto Pearson now waiting for my delayed flight to Providence.
> I spend the weekend doing the Mystic Seaport Wooden Boat Mag festival
> (anybody who?s going please come and say hello at the R&W Traditional
> Rigging booth), crawl around the whaler Charles W Morgan to talking about
> their big refit, then I?ll be home again next Wednesday just in time for
> next week?s race.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Gord,
> 
> 
> I would loved to have met you at the Wooden Boat show, but last Sunday I developed some prostate problems that took me to the hospital. I had planned to sail from Aquebogue, Long Island today. The heavy thunder storms might have made it a wet trip should I have gone. The WBS is always fun, if you haven't been before.
> 
> 
> William C. Winslow
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>   1. Re: hauling an Alberg 30  (Permit or no permit?) (Mike Lehman)
>   2. Finally a race to write about... (Gordon Laco)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:07:54 -0400
> From: Mike Lehman <Sail_505 at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] hauling an Alberg 30  (Permit or no
>    permit?)
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> Michael,
> 
> I am appreciative of your cautions. When I posted earlier today I did not 
> mention that I was carrying a canoe in the back of the truck that was 
> sticking out 5'6". It was really well tied in and I carried a red flag on 
> the end of the canoe. It was safe, but I got caught it bumper-to-bumper 
> traffic on the Baltimore beltway, I was watching the woman behind me, who 
> was texting for the first 20 minutes, then fussing with something in the 
> front and back seat for the next 20 minutes, then, just when I thought she 
> would pay attention to her driving, she was under the dash most of the time. 
> I was sure she was going to run into the canoe/truck...I was a nervous wreck 
> with her behind me.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: crufone at comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:58 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Public-List] hauling an Alberg 30 (Permit or no permit?)
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> 
> Tom,
> 
> Trailer and cargo width limits are a matter of State regulations, as are 
> pulling doubles and triples. Each State is a bit different.
> 
> I built a trailer for my Alberg 30 in 2002 and have since land sailed her 
> many times in Ohio, Indiana and recently Michigan.  I have never been 
> stopped by any law enforcement officer. Several official cars have passed me 
> by without much of a look.
> 
> I do exercise major caution. I never tow the Alberg over an average speed 45 
> mph, have a slow moving vehicle triangle affixed to the rear of the trailer, 
> orange caution flags on the rear, an extra tail light affixed to the mast 
> which is about four feet off the road level and protrudes some 8 feet beyond 
> the trailer and approximately 4 feet beyond the boat at the aft end and put 
> on my emergency flashers when my speed is below 40 mph.  I was dismayed when 
> I noticed that Michigan had increased the minimum speed limit on Interstates 
> to 55 mph.
> 
> I really don't like to trailer faster than 45 mph. For all my trips I try to 
> select divided highways which are not Interstates and two lane country 
> roads. On two lane roads I keep an eye on the back up behind me and pull off 
> to let them pass if there are more than 3 or 4 cars behind. The beauty of 
> traveling just 45 mph is that it makes for easier passing for cars which are 
> behind me.  This is a matter of professional courtesy to other drivers 
> sharing the roadways.
> 
> I really enjoy the fact that I can relocate my boat at will.  When sea 
> sailing I rarely travel more than 9 mph so while land sailing 45 mph is 
> really fast. The Alberg is precious to me so on land or at sea I endeavour 
> to exercise the same degree of caution.
> 
> I have spoken with professional haulers on sev eral occasions about permits 
> for the Alberg and trailer. Most have suggested that if the tow vehicle is 
> something other that an obvious commercial haulers tractor or truck the 
> official guys will leave you be. I use a 2001 Ford 250 Diesel Super Duty 
> with larger tyre s which essentially makes the truck a 350, air bag 
> suspension, 15,000 lbs capacity tow bar reciever, load equializer and anti 
> sway bar.  I am dead serious and very careful each and every time I 
> transport the Alberg over land.
> 
> Don Campbell a Canadian on this list perhaps has the most serious experience 
> hauling his Alberg 30 over land.  I am sure he can add to my comments.
> 
> Michael #133
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> From: "Tom S." <tom.s at insightbb.com>
> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:14:50 PM
> Subject: [Public-List] hauling an Alberg 30  (Permit or no permit?)
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Has anyone on the list ever been checked by the D.O.T while hauling
> their A-30 and asked for a permit?
> 
> Does the D.O.T. have data which gives them the exact beam  of the boat
> or do they actually try to put the tape on it.
> 
> As I am sure you all know this boat actually only violates the required
> beam for a very small point about mid ship. It would be a bit tricky to
> actually get it measured accurately.........maybe a couple of plum bobs
> dropped from the mid beam and measure between them.
> 
> I realize the boat is actually 8'-9" but the beam on my documentation it
> is stated as 8.6 that could be construed as 8'-6" by say myself I guess
> maybe.
> 
> The permits are not all that expensive but they do create  quite a bit
> of hassle.They lock you in to a time frame and a particular route.
> 
> Anyway, I was just wondering what others have done.......... or might
> would consider doing.
> 
> -mostly a lurker, but love this list,
> 
> -tom s
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> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:56:12 -0400
> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
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> Subject: [Public-List] Finally a race to write about...
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> Hello gang.
> 
> Well SURPRISE finally had a race last night that was worth writing about.
> 
> Despite a somewhat miserable looking afternoon, by supper time the weather
> cleared and lovely cool 12-15kt breeze from the south (!?) filled in and
> blew solidly.  About 15 boats roared out to the start... In the ?real boat?
> division of B  Fleet ( real boat, as opposed the the 24? Shark One-Design
> boats we share a start with) there was us, WIND SCOOP (a CS27 who we used to
> clobber but this year is quick and beat us twice so far (quote from my
> son... ?WTF, did he read a book or something?!?), a Tanzer 22 (ugly, short,
> but quick), MAID MARION (an Aloha 28, well sailed by Robin, a gentle soul
> who in his youth flew deHaviland Vampires, a 1st generation jet fighter in
> the RAF), the Thurley?s with their all-girl crew in their Pearson 31 and
> several more.  The usual rabble mob of Sharks was there, I think that vermin
> is up to 6 or 8 boats now.
> 
> We got into the quite heavy traffic before the start, galloping back and
> forth as the clock ticked down, and placed ourselves behind and just to
> windward of MAID MARION, close reaching for the committee boat end of the
> line doing over 6kts with seconds to go.   Up ahead was a solid wall of
> Sharks, nose to tail and several boats thick all hard on the wind (sailing
> across our course) and screaming at each other.  We managed to clamber over
> MAID MARION, stifling them with our wind shadow as we passed and allowing me
> to dive to leeward into a hole that had appeared in the Shark stampede.  We
> hardened up and crossed the line with only one Shark ahead of us and to
> windward of the whole fleet.   Our principal foes were all with the
> exception of Maid Marion, who was nicely behind us and elbowing their way
> through the vermin, all nicely to leeward and somewhat distracted by the
> howling scramble the rabble were causing at the start line.
> 
> For the rest of the race we sailed clean in clear air with nobody near us...
> I was reminded of quotation I heard a skipper I crewed for giving to the
> yachting press after a big win... ?how do I win races?  I try to start
> first, then work to improve my lead...?  None of the big boys in A Fleet,
> who started 5 min behind us, came near catching us.  We were hitting 7kts
> under spinnaker on the runs (the sets, gybes and douses were nearly
> flawless) and we were never going under 5kts on the beats.  We crossed the
> line half a leg ahead of our nearest rival and with only the same single
> Shark ahead of us.  Wow.   We crossed the finish just galloping under
> spinnaker...tossing in a gybe just to be stylish as we got our horn toot,
> and reached under ?chute back to the club with the pole just off the
> forestay, rooster tails coming off our quarters, stern tucked way down and a
> big foaming bow wave on either side.
> 
> This being the end of the first series, there was pizza at the club house
> after and while chowing down I was amused to have WINDSCOOP consoling me on
> our finish... We were so far ahead of them they?d lost track and thought we
> were behind them.  Ha ha ha ha he he he.  What a look on their faces when my
> son Peter filled them in.
> 
> So, I?m at Toronto Pearson now waiting for my delayed flight to Providence.
> I spend the weekend doing the Mystic Seaport Wooden Boat Mag festival
> (anybody who?s going please come and say hello at the R&W Traditional
> Rigging booth), crawl around the whaler Charles W Morgan to talking about
> their big refit, then I?ll be home again next Wednesday just in time for
> next week?s race.
> 
> Gord SURPRISE 426
> 
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