[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2102, Issue 1

Thu Jun 23 19:44:37 PDT 2011

Hello Stephen - 

The show's at Mystic Seaport, hours run 9 - 5 daily Friday Saturday and
Sunday.  I'm running my R&W Traditional Rigging and Outfitting booth in the
big tent.

Hope to see you - Gord

On 23/06/11 8:54 PM, "Stephen Sousa" <alberg114 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Gord,
>  
> I may be interested in attending this show, can you provide some specifics?
> Also enjoyed reading your write up on the race, well the Allied is no racer
> but a nice cruiser. We headed to Boston on Sunday in a steady 22 knots, great
> boat.
>  
> Best,
> Stephen 
>  
> 
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> From: wcwinslow at aol.com
>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:22:27 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2102, Issue 1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, I?m at Toronto Pearson now waiting for my delayed flight to Providence.
>> I spend the weekend doing the Mystic Seaport Wooden Boat Mag festival
>> (anybody who?s going please come and say hello at the R&W Traditional
>> Rigging booth), crawl around the whaler Charles W Morgan to talking about
>> their big refit, then I?ll be home again next Wednesday just in time for
>> next week?s race.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gord,
>> 
>> 
>> I would loved to have met you at the Wooden Boat show, but last Sunday I
>> developed some prostate problems that took me to the hospital. I had planned
>> to sail from Aquebogue, Long Island today. The heavy thunder storms might
>> have made it a wet trip should I have gone. The WBS is always fun, if you
>> haven't been before.
>> 
>> 
>> William C. Winslow
>> 
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>> 1. Re: hauling an Alberg 30 (Permit or no permit?) (Mike Lehman)
>> 2. Finally a race to write about... (Gordon Laco)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:07:54 -0400
>> From: Mike Lehman <Sail_505 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all"
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] hauling an Alberg 30 (Permit or no
>> permit?)
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>> Michael,
>> 
>> I am appreciative of your cautions. When I posted earlier today I did not
>> mention that I was carrying a canoe in the back of the truck that was
>> sticking out 5'6". It was really well tied in and I carried a red flag on
>> the end of the canoe. It was safe, but I got caught it bumper-to-bumper
>> traffic on the Baltimore beltway, I was watching the woman behind me, who
>> was texting for the first 20 minutes, then fussing with something in the
>> front and back seat for the next 20 minutes, then, just when I thought she
>> would pay attention to her driving, she was under the dash most of the time.
>> I was sure she was going to run into the canoe/truck...I was a nervous wreck
>> with her behind me.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: crufone at comcast.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:58 AM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] hauling an Alberg 30 (Permit or no permit?)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tom,
>> 
>> Trailer and cargo width limits are a matter of State regulations, as are
>> pulling doubles and triples. Each State is a bit different.
>> 
>> I built a trailer for my Alberg 30 in 2002 and have since land sailed her
>> many times in Ohio, Indiana and recently Michigan. I have never been
>> stopped by any law enforcement officer. Several official cars have passed me
>> by without much of a look.
>> 
>> I do exercise major caution. I never tow the Alberg over an average speed 45
>> mph, have a slow moving vehicle triangle affixed to the rear of the trailer,
>> orange caution flags on the rear, an extra tail light affixed to the mast
>> which is about four feet off the road level and protrudes some 8 feet beyond
>> the trailer and approximately 4 feet beyond the boat at the aft end and put
>> on my emergency flashers when my speed is below 40 mph. I was dismayed when
>> I noticed that Michigan had increased the minimum speed limit on Interstates
>> to 55 mph.
>> 
>> I really don't like to trailer faster than 45 mph. For all my trips I try to
>> select divided highways which are not Interstates and two lane country
>> roads. On two lane roads I keep an eye on the back up behind me and pull off
>> to let them pass if there are more than 3 or 4 cars behind. The beauty of
>> traveling just 45 mph is that it makes for easier passing for cars which are
>> behind me. This is a matter of professional courtesy to other drivers
>> sharing the roadways.
>> 
>> I really enjoy the fact that I can relocate my boat at will. When sea
>> sailing I rarely travel more than 9 mph so while land sailing 45 mph is
>> really fast. The Alberg is precious to me so on land or at sea I endeavour
>> to exercise the same degree of caution.
>> 
>> I have spoken with professional haulers on sev eral occasions about permits
>> for the Alberg and trailer. Most have suggested that if the tow vehicle is
>> something other that an obvious commercial haulers tractor or truck the
>> official guys will leave you be. I use a 2001 Ford 250 Diesel Super Duty
>> with larger tyre s which essentially makes the truck a 350, air bag
>> suspension, 15,000 lbs capacity tow bar reciever, load equializer and anti
>> sway bar. I am dead serious and very careful each and every time I
>> transport the Alberg over land.
>> 
>> Don Campbell a Canadian on this list perhaps has the most serious experience
>> hauling his Alberg 30 over land. I am sure he can add to my comments.
>> 
>> Michael #133
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Tom S." <tom.s at insightbb.com>
>> To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at alberg30.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:14:50 PM
>> Subject: [Public-List] hauling an Alberg 30 (Permit or no permit?)
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Has anyone on the list ever been checked by the D.O.T while hauling
>> their A-30 and asked for a permit?
>> 
>> Does the D.O.T. have data which gives them the exact beam of the boat
>> or do they actually try to put the tape on it.
>> 
>> As I am sure you all know this boat actually only violates the required
>> beam for a very small point about mid ship. It would be a bit tricky to
>> actually get it measured accurately.........maybe a couple of plum bobs
>> dropped from the mid beam and measure between them.
>> 
>> I realize the boat is actually 8'-9" but the beam on my documentation it
>> is stated as 8.6 that could be construed as 8'-6" by say myself I guess
>> maybe.
>> 
>> The permits are not all that expensive but they do create quite a bit
>> of hassle.They lock you in to a time frame and a particular route.
>> 
>> Anyway, I was just wondering what others have done.......... or might
>> would consider doing.
>> 
>> -mostly a lurker, but love this list,
>> 
>> -tom s
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>> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:56:12 -0400
>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
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>> Subject: [Public-List] Finally a race to write about...
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>> Hello gang.
>> 
>> Well SURPRISE finally had a race last night that was worth writing about.
>> 
>> Despite a somewhat miserable looking afternoon, by supper time the weather
>> cleared and lovely cool 12-15kt breeze from the south (!?) filled in and
>> blew solidly. About 15 boats roared out to the start... In the ?real boat?
>> division of B Fleet ( real boat, as opposed the the 24? Shark One-Design
>> boats we share a start with) there was us, WIND SCOOP (a CS27 who we used to
>> clobber but this year is quick and beat us twice so far (quote from my
>> son... ?WTF, did he read a book or something?!?), a Tanzer 22 (ugly, short,
>> but quick), MAID MARION (an Aloha 28, well sailed by Robin, a gentle soul
>> who in his youth flew deHaviland Vampires, a 1st generation jet fighter in
>> the RAF), the Thurley?s with their all-girl crew in their Pearson 31 and
>> several more. The usual rabble mob of Sharks was there, I think that vermin
>> is up to 6 or 8 boats now.
>> 
>> We got into the quite heavy traffic before the start, galloping back and
>> forth as the clock ticked down, and placed ourselves behind and just to
>> windward of MAID MARION, close reaching for the committee boat end of the
>> line doing over 6kts with seconds to go. Up ahead was a solid wall of
>> Sharks, nose to tail and several boats thick all hard on the wind (sailing
>> across our course) and screaming at each other. We managed to clamber over
>> MAID MARION, stifling them with our wind shadow as we passed and allowing me
>> to dive to leeward into a hole that had appeared in the Shark stampede. We
>> hardened up and crossed the line with only one Shark ahead of us and to
>> windward of the whole fleet. Our principal foes were all with the
>> exception of Maid Marion, who was nicely behind us and elbowing their way
>> through the vermin, all nicely to leeward and somewhat distracted by the
>> howling scramble the rabble were causing at the start line.
>> 
>> For the rest of the race we sailed clean in clear air with nobody near us...
>> I was reminded of quotation I heard a skipper I crewed for giving to the
>> yachting press after a big win... ?how do I win races? I try to start
>> first, then work to improve my lead...? None of the big boys in A Fleet,
>> who started 5 min behind us, came near catching us. We were hitting 7kts
>> under spinnaker on the runs (the sets, gybes and douses were nearly
>> flawless) and we were never going under 5kts on the beats. We crossed the
>> line half a leg ahead of our nearest rival and with only the same single
>> Shark ahead of us. Wow. We crossed the finish just galloping under
>> spinnaker...tossing in a gybe just to be stylish as we got our horn toot,
>> and reached under ?chute back to the club with the pole just off the
>> forestay, rooster tails coming off our quarters, stern tucked way down and a
>> big foaming bow wave on either side.
>> 
>> This being the end of the first series, there was pizza at the club house
>> after and while chowing down I was amused to have WINDSCOOP consoling me on
>> our finish... We were so far ahead of them they?d lost track and thought we
>> were behind them. Ha ha ha ha he he he. What a look on their faces when my
>> son Peter filled them in.
>> 
>> So, I?m at Toronto Pearson now waiting for my delayed flight to Providence.
>> I spend the weekend doing the Mystic Seaport Wooden Boat Mag festival
>> (anybody who?s going please come and say hello at the R&W Traditional
>> Rigging booth), crawl around the whaler Charles W Morgan to talking about
>> their big refit, then I?ll be home again next Wednesday just in time for
>> next week?s race.
>> 
>> Gord SURPRISE 426
>> 
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