[Public-List] bilge pump counter

Thu Mar 31 11:05:58 PDT 2011

Thanks Bill,

Cool stuff, I'll put it on my wish list.  I am copying Dan Marks because he
is my soon to be "PERFECT intentions" (AKA, good old 148) partner and I may
be able to talk him into buying this.  He has been lurking on the page, too
self conscious to pipe in (I know, some/many may feel it's too bad that's
not the case with me). 

Best, Roger 148 

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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Bill Wallace
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I bought this product for $178
https://www.aqualarm.net/comerus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=144

It was better for me to have 1 monitoring device for a bunch of areas than 
separate buzzers for everything.  I wanted the bilge counter, bilge pumping 
alarms and temperature/water flow alarms.  Fairly easy to install to an
existing 
bilge pump - the monitoring line has to be in the switched side of the line,
but 
I use a separate switch from the pump anyways, so that was easy.

Not super cheap, but far less costly than any insurance claim.

Bill

----- Original Message ----
From: Roger L. Kingsland <r.kingsland at ksba.com>
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Thanks Bill, where did you get the bilge pump counter?  Was it costly?
Roger

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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Bill Wallace
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I have a bilge pump counter that lets me know how many times the bilge pump
has 
cycled, and also an audible alarm if it pumps for longer than 2.5 minutes -
it 
really helps me sleep at night knowing I will be woken up before the water
hits 
the mattress :-)  I check the counter every time I arrive - it pumps a bit
when 
it has rained hard, usually once or twice if we have had a week of rain.
Alarm 
also goes off if the cooling water on the engine fails or goes above a
certain 
temperature.  Aqualarm is the company - the quality is marginal, but if you 
install in a protected location it is acceptable.

That was installed last summer - this summer I plan on fixing the 3-4
locations 
that let in water when it rains.

Bill

----- Original Message ----
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Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 12:02:45 PM
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Mike,

Mike,

Congrats on a good survey.  I did my first and only survey when I bought 148
in 2003 and learned, because the insurance companies rely on the survey, it
helps to negotiate w/ the surveyor RE the stupid stuff.  For example, he
noted the AC plug for the fridge, which was plugged into an accusable
outlet, must be hard wired.  Now I have to do that which will make removing
the fridge a little more difficult.  Live and learn.

Roger

PS - I wonder if there is a cheap way to guage running time of the electric
bilge pump (like an engine hour meter) so you know if it runs so much while
you are off the boat you have a leak to fix?

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No surprises at all - the surveyor was really impressed with the boat, and 
hinted that he would like to buy it. Since I did all of the plumbing and 
electrical work, I expected something that was to 'code' but everything he 
looked at he everything was professionally done, neat and conforms to all 
current regulations. I anticipated that he was going to insist on an 
automatic electric bilge pump...but after I went into my usual tirade about 
the fact that my I work to keep water "out" of the boat...not how to get 
water out that shouldn't be there in the first place, and in doing so I make

damn sure with regular inspections on all the hoses, clamps and thru-hull 
fittings and valves, stuffing box, and whale gusher 10 manual pump that 
there is no water in the boat, he was happy with that. It didn't hurt that 
the bilges was completely dry. He agreed that if there was a problem, an 
automatic pump would just mask the problem until the batteries went dead...I

pointed out that I did not need batteries to pump the boat out, only arms to

work the manual pump...I think he gave up on the idea of an electric pump.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Roger L. Kingsland
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:46 PM
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but after I
Thanks Mike,

I have made teak brackets to hold the bases and will also have straps.
Without boxes, I can fit both in the middle locker (perhaps leaving the aft
one for beer). I plan to put some of that plastic flooring (Sport Court)
under the batteries so the plywood base stays dry.

Did you have any surprises with your survey?

Roger

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[mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of Mike Lehman
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Roger,

I just had my boat surveyed this morning. My batteries are Group 27 wet cell

batteries. The are not in battery boxes, but they are strapped down
securely. The surveyor told me that because of the location, under the floor

boards, they are protected as if they were in a battery box, therefore they
did not need to be in a battery box, but must be secured. Hope this helps.
BTW, 2 group 27 battery boxes will not fit under the cabin sole of the A30.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Roger L. Kingsland
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:58 PM
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Subject: [Public-List] battery boxes

Hi Folks,

I have a West Marine (fully sealed) starting battery and an Optima Blue Top
(sealed) gel house battery.  Both have small oval holes on the top for
ventilation.  Does anyone know if regulatory agencies require they be in
battery boxes or do I just have to insure they are securely fastened?  Does
ventilating them to the outside make a difference?

Thanks, Roger 148

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