[Public-List] Public-List Digest, Vol 2070, Issue 2
Matthew Hay
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Sun May 8 11:23:00 PDT 2011
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> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 15:20:07 +0000 (UTC)
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> I too have heard the same comments re: Kubota based marine conversions. I addition, most of the Kubota maintenance parts can be purchased from the Kubota tractor dealerships for less than the marine stores. More sources for parts = more competition?= lower cost. Also I thought that the Beta was Kubota based as well.
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> Michael #133
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> From: "Peter Hurrey" <phurrey at tpg.com.au>
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> Fo my moneys worth anything that is Kubota based is good - that includes the
> Universal, westerbeke, nanni diesel. The Kubotas are great little engines
> and I think less problems than the yanmars, volvos etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter ?Hurrey
> Phone 07 54789788
> Mobile 0429705067
> Email: phurrey at tpg.com.au
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> 15 Lingard St Palmwoods Queensland Australia 4555????????
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Dana.Shafie at verizon.net
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> Subject: [Public-List] Need a new diesel
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> Hello Fellow Albergers!
> My 1966 Alberg 30, Sabrina, has had a mortal failure of her 80s universal
> diesel. ?Now I'm faced with the dilemma of how to repower her. ?The mechanic
> I talked with deals in Westerbeke and is steering me that way. ?What modern
> diesels have others used? ?Is Yanmar better? ?Others? ?Help please! ?This is
> going to cost a bilge full of gold coins to fix and I want to make the best
> choice so that Sabrina will be around another 50 years.
> ?? ? ? Thank You!
> ?? ? ? ? Dana Shafie
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> From: "Dana.Shafie at verizon.net" <dana.shafie at verizon.net>
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> Subject: [Public-List] Garhauer and Diesel
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> As Mike noted, Sabrina has the Garhauer set up for traveler and boom vang and I consider them flawless. They are trouble free and very effective. The only caution would be to make sure the boom vang geometry is right, it is so powerful you can rip the gooseneck track out of the mast. I'm not sure if that is just because of boom vang acting as a fulcrum or the result of some less than elegant jibes, however. But the unit is fantastic for controlling the shape of the main.
>
> And thank you Peter for the comment on the kubota!
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>> 1. Re: Main Sheet Setup (Chuck Stein)
>> 2. Re: Main Sheet Setup (Gordon Laco)
>> 3. Need a new diesel (Dana.Shafie at verizon.net)
>> 4. Re: Need a new diesel (Peter Hurrey)
>> 5. Re: Main Sheet Setup (Dave Terrell)
>> 6. Re: Main Sheet Setup (crufone at comcast.net)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:41:22 -0400
>> From: "Chuck Stein" <cwstein1 at verizon.net>
>> To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'"
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>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>> Message-ID: <DD97D624049245D0938BE5D17AE5F393 at stein2>
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>> So does the traveler only extend between the two cockpit coamings, or is it
>> aft of them, which looks like it then would interfere with the lazarette
>> hatch. If it is only between the coamings I wonder if it is long enough to
>> give any significant twist-off benefit. Do you have the name of a
>> manufacturer or fabricator that offers such a traveler?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of
>> crufone at comcast.net
>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:03 AM
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Greg,
>>
>> That is the original set-up which I have on #133, a 1966 boat.? It works
>> fine for lazy daysailing. I see two drawbacks to this system. The
>> non-tailing "cooling tower shape" winch requires the horn cleat to fix the
>> mainsheet. This makes it difficult to quickly "blow the main" it you wanted
>> to in a gust of wind.? I suppose one could install a tailing winch to
>> eliminate the horn cleat.? The other issue is that it is impossible to trim
>> the main boom to centerline with this arrangement. For lazy daysailing these
>> are not really issues.........unless you get so lazy that you are not
>> watching for gusts and puffs of wind.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most owners have up-graded to the installation of a track traveler mounted
>> on the aft deck just aft of the cockpit bulkhead.?The traveler with it's
>> attendant new main tackle, including either a cam or clutch cleat, nicely
>> solves both of the drawbacks of the original system.
>>
>> Michael
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: gregr at nethere.com
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 8:16:50 PM
>> Subject: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>
>> Ayla was built in '64 and has what I assume is the original main sheet
>> setup. There is a pad-eye on each side of the cockpit just forward of the
>> aft hatch and a winch in the middle. The sheet starts at the ?port pad-eye,
>> runs through a block on the end of the boom, down to the SB pad-eye, back up
>> to the boom, down to the port pad-eye, and finally over to the winch.
>>
>> What is the recommended setup and how much will it improve things over what
>> I have? I'm not looking to race her but I'm not a big fan of having to use a
>> winch to trim the main either.
>>
>> Greg
>> S/V Ayla
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 17:52:50 -0400
>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net>
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>> Message-ID: <C9EB3772.CBF1%mainstay at csolve.net>
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>>
>> Hi Chuck -
>>
>> The traveler runs between the coamings, at the extreme forward end of the
>> afterdeck.
>>
>> Ronstan makes a good one appropriate for our boats, as does Harken and some
>> others. Just tell your chandlery the size of your mainsail and they'll be
>> able to give you a list of choices.
>>
>> With regard to length of travel... Yes longer would be better; but longer is
>> also uglier....
>>
>> Gord #426 Surprise
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/05/11 5:41 PM, "Chuck Stein" <cwstein1 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> So does the traveler only extend between the two cockpit coamings, or is it
>>> aft of them, which looks like it then would interfere with the lazarette
>>> hatch. If it is only between the coamings I wonder if it is long enough to
>>> give any significant twist-off benefit. Do you have the name of a
>>> manufacturer or fabricator that offers such a traveler?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of
>>> crufone at comcast.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:03 AM
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Greg,
>>>
>>> That is the original set-up which I have on #133, a 1966 boat.? It works
>>> fine for lazy daysailing. I see two drawbacks to this system. The
>>> non-tailing "cooling tower shape" winch requires the horn cleat to fix the
>>> mainsheet. This makes it difficult to quickly "blow the main" it you wanted
>>> to in a gust of wind.? I suppose one could install a tailing winch to
>>> eliminate the horn cleat.? The other issue is that it is impossible to trim
>>> the main boom to centerline with this arrangement. For lazy daysailing these
>>> are not really issues.........unless you get so lazy that you are not
>>> watching for gusts and puffs of wind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most owners have up-graded to the installation of a track traveler mounted
>>> on the aft deck just aft of the cockpit bulkhead.?The traveler with it's
>>> attendant new main tackle, including either a cam or clutch cleat, nicely
>>> solves both of the drawbacks of the original system.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: gregr at nethere.com
>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 8:16:50 PM
>>> Subject: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>>
>>> Ayla was built in '64 and has what I assume is the original main sheet
>>> setup. There is a pad-eye on each side of the cockpit just forward of the
>>> aft hatch and a winch in the middle. The sheet starts at the ?port pad-eye,
>>> runs through a block on the end of the boom, down to the SB pad-eye, back up
>>> to the boom, down to the port pad-eye, and finally over to the winch.
>>>
>>> What is the recommended setup and how much will it improve things over what
>>> I have? I'm not looking to race her but I'm not a big fan of having to use a
>>> winch to trim the main either.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> S/V Ayla
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 22:30:38 -0400
>> From: "Dana.Shafie at verizon.net" <dana.shafie at verizon.net>
>> To: "public-list at lists.alberg30.org" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: [Public-List] Need a new diesel
>> Message-ID: <B5A68672-6501-4873-8A83-4F8C84581798 at verizon.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hello Fellow Albergers!
>> My 1966 Alberg 30, Sabrina, has had a mortal failure of her 80s universal diesel. Now I'm faced with the dilemma of how to repower her. The mechanic I talked with deals in Westerbeke and is steering me that way. What modern diesels have others used? Is Yanmar better? Others? Help please! This is going to cost a bilge full of gold coins to fix and I want to make the best choice so that Sabrina will be around another 50 years.
>> Thank You!
>> Dana Shafie
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 18:24:29 +1000
>> From: "Peter Hurrey" <phurrey at tpg.com.au>
>> To: "'Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all'"
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Need a new diesel
>> Message-ID: <000601cc0d59$5b12c930$11385b90$@com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Fo my moneys worth anything that is Kubota based is good - that includes the
>> Universal, westerbeke, nanni diesel. The Kubotas are great little engines
>> and I think less problems than the yanmars, volvos etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter Hurrey
>> Phone 07 54789788
>> Mobile 0429705067
>> Email: phurrey at tpg.com.au
>>
>> 15 Lingard St Palmwoods Queensland Australia 4555
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of
>> Dana.Shafie at verizon.net
>> Sent: Sunday, 8 May 2011 12:31 PM
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> Subject: [Public-List] Need a new diesel
>>
>> Hello Fellow Albergers!
>> My 1966 Alberg 30, Sabrina, has had a mortal failure of her 80s universal
>> diesel. Now I'm faced with the dilemma of how to repower her. The mechanic
>> I talked with deals in Westerbeke and is steering me that way. What modern
>> diesels have others used? Is Yanmar better? Others? Help please! This is
>> going to cost a bilge full of gold coins to fix and I want to make the best
>> choice so that Sabrina will be around another 50 years.
>> Thank You!
>> Dana Shafie
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 08 May 2011 08:12:50 -0400
>> From: "Dave Terrell" <dterrell at message.nmc.edu>
>> To: <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>> Message-ID: <4DC65083020000B00006BCA0 at gwia1.nmc.edu>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Garhauer makes a very sturdy traveller for an excellent price. I gave them the measurements for the holes and they drilled them as I requested; the fit was perfect. My experience is that they will customize for no extra cost - assuming reasonable requests.
>>
>> david, 432
>>
>>>>> Gordon Laco 05/07/11 5:53 PM >>>
>> Hi Chuck -
>>
>> The traveler runs between the coamings, at the extreme forward end of the
>> afterdeck.
>>
>> Ronstan makes a good one appropriate for our boats, as does Harken and some
>> others. Just tell your chandlery the size of your mainsail and they'll be
>> able to give you a list of choices.
>>
>> With regard to length of travel... Yes longer would be better; but longer is
>> also uglier....
>>
>> Gord #426 Surprise
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/05/11 5:41 PM, "Chuck Stein" wrote:
>>
>>> So does the traveler only extend between the two cockpit coamings, or is it
>>> aft of them, which looks like it then would interfere with the lazarette
>>> hatch. If it is only between the coamings I wonder if it is long enough to
>>> give any significant twist-off benefit. Do you have the name of a
>>> manufacturer or fabricator that offers such a traveler?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of
>>> crufone at comcast.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:03 AM
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Greg,
>>>
>>> That is the original set-up which I have on #133, a 1966 boat. It works
>>> fine for lazy daysailing. I see two drawbacks to this system. The
>>> non-tailing "cooling tower shape" winch requires the horn cleat to fix the
>>> mainsheet. This makes it difficult to quickly "blow the main" it you wanted
>>> to in a gust of wind. I suppose one could install a tailing winch to
>>> eliminate the horn cleat. The other issue is that it is impossible to trim
>>> the main boom to centerline with this arrangement. For lazy daysailing these
>>> are not really issues.........unless you get so lazy that you are not
>>> watching for gusts and puffs of wind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most owners have up-graded to the installation of a track traveler mounted
>>> on the aft deck just aft of the cockpit bulkhead. The traveler with it's
>>> attendant new main tackle, including either a cam or clutch cleat, nicely
>>> solves both of the drawbacks of the original system.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: gregr at nethere.com
>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 8:16:50 PM
>>> Subject: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>>
>>> Ayla was built in '64 and has what I assume is the original main sheet
>>> setup. There is a pad-eye on each side of the cockpit just forward of the
>>> aft hatch and a winch in the middle. The sheet starts at the port pad-eye,
>>> runs through a block on the end of the boom, down to the SB pad-eye, back up
>>> to the boom, down to the port pad-eye, and finally over to the winch.
>>>
>>> What is the recommended setup and how much will it improve things over what
>>> I have? I'm not looking to race her but I'm not a big fan of having to use a
>>> winch to trim the main either.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> S/V Ayla
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 15:15:45 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: crufone at comcast.net
>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>> <public-list at lists.alberg30.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
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>> <835358764.35620.1304867745622.JavaMail.root at sz0102a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>>
>>
>> I would have to second that vote for Garhauer. In fact, Dana Shafie who just posted a message on Sabrina and needing a Diesel engine has the Garhauer travaler, solid vang, and line management system done very nicely by the previous owner. I visited the boat and sailed on her before she was sold and the fittings mfg by Garhauer were first rate and reasonable in cost. Also Garhauer bends over backwards to provide the very best in custome service and correct advice.
>>
>> Michael #133
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dave Terrell" <dterrell at message.nmc.edu>
>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2011 8:12:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> Garhauer makes a very sturdy traveller for an excellent price. I gave them the measurements for the holes and they drilled them as I requested; the fit was perfect. My experience is that they will customize for no extra cost - assuming reasonable requests.
>>
>> david, 432
>>
>>>>> Gordon Laco 05/07/11 5:53 PM >>>
>> Hi Chuck -
>>
>> The traveler runs between the coamings, at the extreme forward end of the
>> afterdeck.
>>
>> Ronstan makes a good one appropriate for our boats, as does Harken and some
>> others. Just tell your chandlery the size of your mainsail and they'll be
>> able to give you a list of choices.
>>
>> With regard to length of travel... Yes longer would be better; but longer is
>> also uglier....
>>
>> Gord #426 Surprise
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/05/11 5:41 PM, "Chuck Stein" wrote:
>>
>>> So does the traveler only extend between the two cockpit coamings, or is it
>>> aft of them, which looks like it then would interfere with the lazarette
>>> hatch. If it is only between the coamings I wonder if it is long enough to
>>> give any significant twist-off benefit. Do you have the name of a
>>> manufacturer or fabricator that offers such a traveler?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org
>>> [mailto:public-list-bounces at lists.alberg30.org] On Behalf Of
>>> crufone at comcast.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:03 AM
>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all
>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Greg,
>>>
>>> That is the original set-up which I have on #133, a 1966 boat. It works
>>> fine for lazy daysailing. I see two drawbacks to this system. The
>>> non-tailing "cooling tower shape" winch requires the horn cleat to fix the
>>> mainsheet. This makes it difficult to quickly "blow the main" it you wanted
>>> to in a gust of wind. I suppose one could install a tailing winch to
>>> eliminate the horn cleat. The other issue is that it is impossible to trim
>>> the main boom to centerline with this arrangement. For lazy daysailing these
>>> are not really issues.........unless you get so lazy that you are not
>>> watching for gusts and puffs of wind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Most owners have up-graded to the installation of a track traveler mounted
>>> on the aft deck just aft of the cockpit bulkhead. The traveler with it's
>>> attendant new main tackle, including either a cam or clutch cleat, nicely
>>> solves both of the drawbacks of the original system.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: gregr at nethere.com
>>> To: public-list at lists.alberg30.org
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2011 8:16:50 PM
>>> Subject: [Public-List] Main Sheet Setup
>>>
>>> Ayla was built in '64 and has what I assume is the original main sheet
>>> setup. There is a pad-eye on each side of the cockpit just forward of the
>>> aft hatch and a winch in the middle. The sheet starts at the port pad-eye,
>>> runs through a block on the end of the boom, down to the SB pad-eye, back up
>>> to the boom, down to the port pad-eye, and finally over to the winch.
>>>
>>> What is the recommended setup and how much will it improve things over what
>>> I have? I'm not looking to race her but I'm not a big fan of having to use a
>>> winch to trim the main either.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> S/V Ayla
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