[Public-List] Where to run wires from the mast into the boat

Wed Nov 2 04:14:35 PDT 2011

I understand the sentiment of burning both sets of running lights (if you
have them), I see it all the time. It's so common I don't think anyone is
confused by it. It's just written off as "there goes another clueless
yacht". I hold Albergers to a higher standard.

MichaelGrosh
#220
On Nov 2, 2011 4:38 AM, <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
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> I've have had really great success mounting four blue sea terminals, each
> drilled separately through the deck. I put two each side of the mast mount.
> They don't leak, ever. When I pull the mast, I unscrew the top of each blue
> sea fitting from its base, leave it attached to the wire, disconnect the
> wires from a terminal block in the cabinet down below behind the head, and
> lift the four pigtails and mast off the boat. Never need to cut a wire end
> or replace an electrical connector.
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> I also successfully ran the rectangular plastic coated, marine two strand
> wire through Blue Sea's rubber grommets, with no drips. I drilled slightly
> smaller diameter holes in the rubber grommets and let the little plastic
> top mount conform the rubber holes to the wire shape. Works fine. Also ran
> two wire harnesses through one grommet to limit the number of deck
> fittings, and wrapped the two coated wire sets back to back with tightly
> wound electrical tape to create a generally rounded shape that sealed
> perfectly inside the grommet.
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> I will say I am not found of these older, chrome platted deck connectors
> that are on some of our boats - the kind with little brass electrical
> corroders, I mean, connectors, pressed into the metal base. On Dolce, the
> knurled up caps, that marine distributors tell you with a straight face to:
> " screw onto the base to keep the water out", proved to be little miniature
> petri dishes. They fratricidicly killed more wiring ends every summer than
> I could replace; perpetrating nearly continuous electronic scandal and
> confusion with first one thing and then another at the masthead; all summer
> - every summer. My newly installed tricolor light worked randomly , and my
> spreader lights where mostly decorative. I soon found I needed to burn both
> the masthead lights and my old cabin side running lights to ensure enough
> illumination to run at night. When I finally switched to the Blue Sea
> mountings, everything worked all the time - even had the affect of soothing
> the late-night moaning-shrie
>  k-angst sounds emitted by other boat crews who were out of the water.
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> So now I have two sets of running lights. When I sail at night and see
> some poor sloop run up to mooring with only one set of running lights
> burning, and often even less then one, I think Awh, you poor sap: you've
> still got those shiny metal connectors on your deck.
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> Anyway, hard to go wrong using these Blue Sea gadgets, they really work.
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> m: "pat nolan" <pnolan33 at yahoo.com>
> To: fongemie at gmail.com, "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 4:13:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Where to run wires from the mast into the boat
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> I'm thinking of a dorade box for the head vent . Should be simple to make
> a pipe for wires inside of it ...?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jeffrey <fongemie at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 5:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Where to run wires from the mast into the boat
>
> Thanks Guys,
>
> I should explain my setup a little better. The hole that goes through the
> mast beam into the cabin has a stainless pipe through it. You can't see it
> from the inside, but it does stick up a couple of inches above the mast
> step. It appears to be well sealed and with some extra goop around the
> outside it never leaks.
>
> Here's a picture
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> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Isu-4ned3Hyg_BhlVi-qIQ?feat=directlink
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> I'd be happy to keep this setup, except there's no extra capacity for more
> wires, and I need to clip the terminals of half of the wires to remove them
> all when we pull the mast. It would never work if I added one more wire.
> The Blue Sea Clam thing looks good, but only for one or two wires? I've
> seen a boat where someone made a little candy-cane shaped fitting (could
> have been a plumbing item) that led the wires into the cabin, complete with
> drip loop. It looked a little gaumy, but could accommodate quite a few
> wires.
>
> Thanks for the input guys, love hearing what everyone else does.
>
> On another note, we brought the boat home last Wednesday and I barely got
> her covered before 15 inches of snow fell over the weekend.
>
> -Jeff
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> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:37 AM, John Riley <jriley at dsbscience.com> wrote:
>
> > ALL fittings or screws that pass through a cored surface should be
> > drilled oversize, the hole filled with thickened epoxy, then proper size
> > holes drilled in the epoxy "plug." This is modern construction
> > practice. If the fitting leaks, it leaks INTO the boat, but not
> > sideways into the coring.
> >
> > Also, as mentioned, chamfering or beveling the edge of the hole before
> > bedding helps TREMENDOUSLY, so make sure to do that around any screw
> > holes as well before bedding.
> >
> >
> >
> > James Allocco wrote:
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > What concerns me is water migrating sideways thru the whole and rotting
> > > the bean or the wooden fillers between the fiberglass.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > John S. Riley
> > S/V Gaelic Sea
> > 1972 Alberg 30 #521
> >
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