[Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck!

[crufone at comcast.net]

Jeff, 

This might sound obvious, but try alternately loosening and tightening the bolt as you attempt to extract it. You may end up resorting to Process two. Drilling out the bolt. It can be done just do so with the idea that this is the only fitting left on earth and then you will be extra careful. Use many new drills to keep them sharp and on center. A dull bit tends to walk off center. 

Michael 



----- Original Message -----




From: "Jeffrey" <fongemie at gmail.com> 
To: "Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all" <public-list at lists.alberg30.org> 
Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 1:39:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck! 

Glenn, no with the propane torch I have I can't get the bolt red hot. I 
think the bolt, head & shaft together make too much of a heat sink. 

I'm going to see if I can scrounge up a Mapp gas touch. Thanks for the 
complements on the woodwork. I love working with wood, hate working with 
nuts & bolts, fiberglass. 

-Jeff 

Jeff Fongemie 
#116 Seagrass 

http://picasaweb.google.com/fongemie 







On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Glennb <brooks.glenn at comcast.net> wrote: 

> hi Jeff,  Did you heat the bolt to red hot? Iam surprised it didn't back 
> out of the bronze shaft. 
> 
> Any chance the other end is peened...hammered into a mushroom shape to 
> prevent extraction? 
> 
> BTW, your rebuild photos on line are fantastic.  great wood working and 
> varnish! 
> 
> Glenn B 
> 
> Sent from my iPad 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> wrote: 
> 
> > Wish I had real advice to offer.... 
> > 
> > 
> > On 02/04/12 10:07 AM, "Jeffrey" <fongemie at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> >> End of day two: 
> >> 
> >> Bolt 2 
> >> Me 0 
> >> 
> >> -jeff 
> >> 
> >> Jeff Fongemie 
> >> #116 Seagrass 
> >> 
> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/fongemie 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Thanks - that's high praise 
> >>> 
> >>> G 
> >>> 
> >>> On 2012-04-01, at 10:43 AM, dan walker <dsailormon at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>>> gord, i see you have been taking writing lessons from mowatt.. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> ________________________________ 
> >>>> From: Gordon Laco <mainstay at csolve.net> 
> >>>> To: Alberg 30 Public List -- open to all < 
> public-list at lists.alberg30.org 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 7:45 PM 
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Public-List] Tiller Head - I'm stuck! 
> >>>> 
> >>>> I deal with old fastenings like this: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> First one must "Address the bolt" and apply various techniques 
> involving 
> >>>> cursing the bolt, one's tools, the whole boat, etc.   Second  one must 
> >>> "Get 
> >>>> the bolt's attention" which involves hitting it smartly on the head 
> with 
> >>> a 
> >>>> hammer.   If one does this before the first wrench is applied, the 
> bolt 
> >>> will 
> >>>> know that this is a battle to the death that it cannot win. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Success in the whole procedure hinges upon not losing the moral high 
> >>> ground 
> >>>> and letting the bolt dictate what your next action will be and how the 
> >>> job 
> >>>> was going to go.  You must keep the initiative. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Applying all one's available resources at the first go is a mistake, 
> >>> because 
> >>>> if the attack fails, clearly the bolt now has the upper hand knowing 
> >>> you've 
> >>>> already played your best cards.  The bolt will face your next attempt 
> >>> secure 
> >>>> in the knowledge that it has soundly beaten you once, and it may beat 
> you 
> >>>> again. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Better to use gradually increasing levels of force.  This keeps the 
> upper 
> >>>> hand in your court, because the bolt soon must know that if it has 
> >>> resisted 
> >>>> the most recent assault, that victory is hollow and means nothing, 
> >>> because 
> >>>> recent history would indicate that you will be back and with more 
> force, 
> >>> in 
> >>>> only a moment.  You keep your morale high, you may even laugh, while 
> the 
> >>>> bolt's morale simply must get lower and lower until it knows when it 
> is 
> >>>> exhausted, it ultimately must give up. 
> >>> _______________________________________________ 
> >>> These businesses support your Association: 
> >>> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html 
> >>> Please support them. 
> >>> _______________________________________________ 
> >>> Public-List mailing list 
> >>> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org 
> >>> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > These businesses support your Association: 
> > http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html 
> > Please support them. 
> > _______________________________________________ 
> > Public-List mailing list 
> > Public-List at lists.alberg30.org 
> > http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org 
> _______________________________________________ 
> These businesses support your Association: 
> http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html 
> Please support them. 
> _______________________________________________ 
> Public-List mailing list 
> Public-List at lists.alberg30.org 
> http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org 
> 



-- 
Jeffrey Fongemie 
_______________________________________________ 
These businesses support your Association: 
http://www.alberg30.org/store/A30supporters.html 
Please support them. 
_______________________________________________ 
Public-List mailing list 
Public-List at lists.alberg30.org 
http://lists.alberg30.org/listinfo.cgi/public-list-alberg30.org 

 1333451954.0